Stu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Stu Turk) (05/09/91)
Index Number: 15444 JB> I would like to know if it is possible to use a modem as a TTY. I JB> am using a 2400baud Hayes compatable. How do I go about setting JB> this up, and what software is needed? Thanks for your HELP! If the TDD (TDD is Telephone Device f/t Deaf which is what you want. TTY is the old initials for TeleTYpewriter once used by the deaf) has switches to set it to 300 baud and ASCII, and you can get your modem down to 300 baud, some standard comm prgm's will let you chat with a TDD. You'd have to experment with the data bit, parity, and stop bit settings (I used 7E2 once). Most TDD's, however, do not have ASCII (they use a older system called Baudot) and are 110 baud or slower. A special TDD modem is needed to connect with them and its cheaper to buy a inexpensive TDD than the modem unless you are going be receving a lot of incoming TDD calls. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26!Stu.Turk Internet: Stu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Phil.Roberts@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Roberts) (05/14/91)
Index Number: 15622 JB> I would like to know if it is possible to use a modem as a TTY. JB> using a 2400baud Hayes compatable. How do I go about setting JB> this up, and what software is needed? Thanks for your HELP! I wouldn't try it. The only modems that can handle Baudot (TDD) are the older Hayes Smartmodems and Novation Apple Cats. If you have an Apple // machine, you can use an Apple Cat and a program called Ascii Express (non-user friendly hacker-type terminal program). One of my users communicates with his brother using this setup. The Apple Cat is no longer manufactured, and Novation has gone out of business. It would be really nice if someone would re-introduce Baudot capable modems! A computer is a lot better investment than a TDD console...can do more for about the same money. Phil -> MegaMail v2.01 #0:<* Paying first is for brothels, not gas! *> -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!157!3!Phil.Roberts Internet: Phil.Roberts@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Stu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Stu Turk) (05/14/91)
Index Number: 15626 PR> out of business. It would be really nice if someone would PR> re-introduce Baudot capable modems! A computer is a lot better It would be nicer if someone forced TDD manufactures to make their low-end TDD's ASCII capable. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26!Stu.Turk Internet: Stu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (05/14/91)
Index Number: 15632 ST> It would be nicer if someone forced TDD manufactures to make ST> their low-end TDD's ASCII capable. I think we will see that over time, Stu. Not force, actually, but robust encouragement :-) TDI Inc. advocates a phase-out of Baudot over the next 5 years. But it will die very slowly and painfully. The price of the ASCII option on some TDDs is a real ripoff! As is the price of dual code 300 baud modems. ... Jack. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26!Jack.O'keeffe Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Phil.Roberts@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Roberts) (05/17/91)
Index Number: 15726 ST> It would be nicer if someone forced TDD manufactures to make ST> low-end TDD's ASCII capable. I'm not sure what a low-end TDD is going for any more. Last I heard, it was still quite an expensive piece of hardware...and dedicated to one use. I WOULD like to see them go to ASCII compatibility. It would solve a lot of problems, and TDD users could access non-TDD services. True, the display would leave a lot to be desired, but it would work. Phil -> MegaMail v2.01 #0:<* Boycott "pay first" gas! *> -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!157!3!Phil.Roberts Internet: Phil.Roberts@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen) (05/24/91)
Index Number: 15796 Hi Phil. Just a note to you. There are a number of ascii capable TDDs! There have been for awhile. I have had two ascii capable TDDs already, each one provided to me. at no charge, courtesy of Ma Bell. My first was a Krown Research Porta Printer Plus and my present is an Ultratec SuperPrint (with the large external display.) Each TDD have Baudot / ascii modes, 110bps / 300bps speeds, half duplex / full duplex and originate / answer modes. There are a number of other brands which also offer these features. For those who want them and who live in states where Ma Bell provides TDDs to certified deaf customers, and when they are availble, all one has to do is ask for one (and perhaps swap their Ma Bell owned Baudot only model.). It is true that TDD to PC or BBS connect leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to display. But, using 110bps speed and with some BBS modification, such communication can be considerably smoother than one might imagine. I have called my own BBS via TDD many many times and do quite well. I might also add here that I am legally blind! I have others who call via TDD as well. Of course, a larger display would be nicer! Yes, you are right, TDDs are still relatively expensive. I have seen "Baudot only" types for as lows as $135.00. However, I am not sure of the pricing for your typical Baudot / ascii capable model, but Baudot only TDDs have been a thing of the past (so to speak) for a time now. I understand that my Ultratec SuperPrint with the huge external L.E.D. runs for around $600.00 to $700.00. All I can say is, "Thank goodness for Ma Bell" otherwise I could not afford my TDD at all. Keepin' the faith! . Vixen -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!203!11!Vixen Internet: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen) (05/31/91)
Index Number: 15879 Hi Phil. Just a note to you. There are a number of ascii capable TDDs! There have been for awhile. I have had two ascii capable TDDs already, each one provided to me. at no charge, courtesy of Ma Bell. My first was a Krown Research Porta Printer Plus and my present is an Ultratec SuperPrint (with the large external display.) Each TDD have Baudot / ascii modes, 110bps / 300bps speeds, half duplex / full duplex and originate / answer modes. There are a number of other brands which also offer these features. For those who want them and who live in states where Ma Bell provides TDDs to certified deaf customers, and when they are availble, all one has to do is ask for one (and perhaps swap their Ma Bell owned Baudot only model.). It is true that TDD to PC or BBS connect leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to display. But, using 110bps speed and with some BBS modification, such communication can be considerably smoother than one might imagine. I have called my own BBS via TDD many many times and do quite well. I might also add here that I am legally blind! I have others who call via TDD as well. Of course, a larger display would be nicer! Yes, you are right, TDDs are still relatively expensive. I have seen "Baudot only" types for as lows as $135.00. However, I am not sure of the pricing for your typical Baudot / ascii capable model, but Baudot only TDDs have been a thing of the past (so to speak) for a time now. I understand that my Ultratec SuperPrint with the huge external L.E.D. runs for around $600.00 to $700.00. All I can say is, "Thank goodness for Ma Bell" otherwise I could not afford my TDD at all. Keepin' the faith! . Vixen -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!203!11!Vixen Internet: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (06/05/91)
Index Number: 15976 PR> What's this? A conversion service from the phone company? Hi Phil. The relay isn't a conversion service but a communication service that facilitates communication between TDDs and voice phones. Special AT&T operators called "Communication Assistants" listen to voice calls and type the verbatum content to TDD users, and also "voice" TDD messages to callers who do not have TDDs. This service is mandated by the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). All phone companies are required to make this service available nationwide by July 26, 1993, at no additional cost to the user. The relay service started in Pennsylvania last September, but at present is limited to in-state calls. That's a price we pay for pioneering, and must be changed. I believe Ohio has passed enabling regulations, but has not as yet initiated the service. (I assume you're posting form Ohio.) PR> Some of the ancient Hayes 1200 baud Smartmodems could handle PR> the Baudot system. True, and Baudot is an ancient code. It was the only way to go when Weitbrecht invented the coupler that permitted HI folks to use the telephone. ASCII came later. But TDI now recommends that Baudot be phased out over the next five years and replaced by ASCII. So I wouldn't spend any big bucks on a Baudot capable modem. Besides, I already have a Baudot TDD. PR> Are the current TDD machines running ASCII now? Most all current TDDs (except for the very low-end models) now offer ASCII capability, either as a feature or an option. I anticipate that before long ASCII will be the "standard" and Baudot the option. ... Jack. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26!Jack.O'keeffe Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org