Diana.Dawne@f432.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Diana Dawne) (05/21/91)
Index Number: 15737
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I don't have any idea what motavates our dogs to do the things they do.
I just know that it happens, and although I know that when my dog does
it, I think he's special but I know they will all do it if given a
chance. What can we say. They're all special.
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Internet: Diana.Dawne@f432.n109.z1.fidonet.orgMargo.Downey@f60.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Margo Downey) (06/18/91)
Index Number: 16108
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Brad, I don't remember just stating that the matching of dog and person are
just simply luck. I have a Seeing Eye dog and am aware of everything you
stated in your message. I think, and I don't remember the context of my
message--remind me, please--but the schools, too, have to pick the dogs from
the pool of dogs that they have. That can be sort of luck in itself. I'm
sorry--but the message was far back--I don't remember even why the
message--the context. Sorry. But I do agree with you, Brad, and we were told
the same things you stated at Seeing Eye--am sure the schools do matching
basically the same way. Anyway, kind of embarrassed--if I didn't say
something correctly, I apologize--'cause I know better. Thanks!
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Internet: Margo.Downey@f60.n382.z1.fidonet.orgMargo.Downey@f60.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Margo Downey) (06/21/91)
Index Number: 16265
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Brad, you answered my question--sort of. Again, I do know about matching
procedures from wht I learned aT Seeing Eye and am sure it's the same
basically at Leader Dogs. And, yes, there are manymany variables, and yes,
most matches are good. Okay, let me do my question again--a bit
differently--let's see what we can come up with. Each school has dogs which
it has selected to be guides by various processes. Okay, now, Leader Dogs
doesn't have all the dogs in the world; Seeing Eye doesn't have all the dogs
in the world; Guide Dogs, etc., etc., doesn't, either. At a given time, you
have the dogs you have which you have selected to be guides. Okay, here comes
Mr. and Ms. Student to training class. You have the dog variables to
consider; the student variables to consider and you have to try to match
according to the pool of dogs you have and according to the students you have
in that class. The only context in which I used "luck" was because you've got
to match the dogs you have available and trained at a given time with the
students who come to class. I know that the schools know beforehand a lot
about the student and interview and evaluate the student when he/she comes to
class, but, you stll have that limited pool of dogs--since all the dogs
haven't been born yet, haven't been trained yet. Is this any clearer? You do
the best--the very very best you can--with the dogs and people you deal with.
I'm just trying to learn--so, thanks for your being patient with me.
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Internet: Margo.Downey@f60.n382.z1.fidonet.orgDan.Kysor@f998.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Kysor) (06/22/91)
Index Number: 16374
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also margo, what about instructors and the personality question. i
am somewhat of an extravert but really don't like hard core dogs.
when i had my interview before class with my current dog, i
discussed with the field rep. he saw my mellow now retired
shepherd and i pointed out that schools usually match me with a
hard core/extraverted dog but as he could see from the shepherd, i
do just fine with a mellow animal, actually better so what i am
trying to get at here is the supposition that to match a outgoing
extravert with like dog isn't necessarily the right match. jake,
who i know and is in this thread had a simular problem and that
routy dog just got him uptight to the point that it effected the
overall relationship so i think it depends on the schools view of
this matching principle. did any of that make sense? dan
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Internet: Dan.Kysor@f998.n203.z1.fidonet.orgMargo.Downey@f60.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Margo Downey) (06/25/91)
Index Number: 16399
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Yes, Dan your message concerning matching did make sense--very, very much!
Look, we're all human--every instructor and every student's a human being.
Hey, the instructor and the student may not be able to communicate. there are
so many variables besides the ones that we know about in the matching process.
I think all the schools really need to listen to their students--a lot more!!
We know they're qualified to do their jobs; they need to realize we're
qualified to know a lot about ourselves, what we want and need, and need to be
listened to, etc. I sincerely hope our friend, Brad, is reading these
messages and will jump in here to discuss all this stuff some more with us if
he feels he can comfortably. Mr. Scott works at a dog guide school and don't
want to do anything to cause him to feel in a tight spot about anything we're
discussing. But, hope he can find a way to respond again to what you've said.
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