[comp.sys.ncr] Problems with NCR-Xterminal

Uuunet@vicorp.com (UUNET) (12/12/90)

Hello NCR and X terminal gurus !

We have a NCR Xterminal (Towerview). After unpacking, I set up a few
things and connect it to a host. It ran X clients well. However,
some X clients need some specific fonts. These fonts are not
included in the ROM fonts (I made a list of the fonts in the ROM).

Now, I understand, that these X-terminals download their fonts
during startup from the host by using the "tftp" protocol.
I enabled that protocol and started the tftpd server on the host.
(In fact I configured the inetd to listen to the tftp port)

The following happens:

I restart the X terminal after the change in the setup (tftp enabled,
configuration file, etc. defined). It seems to connect well to the tftpd
- the tftp statistics displays one successful connection more than last time -
However, I can't login to the host (via telnet). It just hangs after
output of the message:

	Trying... Connected!

That's it. Now, I can download the fonts (I suppose) but I can't use
them because I can't login :-(. The manuals which came with the X terminal
are not useful for solving this problem. I have read some stuff about
tftp and fonts, etc. but I couldn't find a hint to solve this problem.

I tried to use different hosts for downloading the fonts and to telnet to,
just to avoid using the same host for both connections
(problem could be in the host, right ?).
The result was the same.

I think, that somebody else must have this problem and solved it,
already.

Please forgive me, if this topic was discussed in 1001 articles before,
but I didn't follow this newsgroup (comp.sys.ncr) until now.

Either I forgot an obvious thing or something must be wrong with this
terminal. I will try to use another host during this week, but there is
no tftpd on it, yet.

Any help (except telling me to buy a different X terminal) is appreciated.

Norbert Bladt.
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dmdc@ncrsea.Seattle.NCR.COM (Dennis M. Dooley) (12/14/90)

In article <1208@aut.autelca.ascom.ch> nbladt@aut.UUCP (Norbert Bladt) writes:


     The following response assumes that you are working with the
     model 3412 modular X Station from NCR.

nb>Now, I understand, that these X-terminals download their fonts
nb>during startup from the host by using the "tftp" protocol.
nb>I enabled that protocol and started the tftpd server on the host.
nb>(In fact I configured the inetd to listen to the tftp port)

     They read the .Config, fonts.dir, fonts.alias, rgb.txt files among
     others using this protocol.

     You can also use NFS to access fonts.

nb>
nb>The following happens:
nb>
nb>I restart the X terminal after the change in the setup (tftp enabled,
nb>configuration file, etc. defined). It seems to connect well to the tftpd
nb>- the tftp statistics displays one successful connection more than last time -
nb>However, I can't login to the host (via telnet). It just hangs after
nb>output of the message:
nb>
nb>	Trying... Connected!
nb>
     The fact that you got the connected message indicates that the 
     X Station was able to contact the target node.

     Can you successfully telnet to this node from another system?

     tftp and tftpd should not have any effect on the telnet/telnet daemon
     on the target node.

     If you are in fact able to start up X Clients and successfully run
     them on the X Station, this is a positive indicator that the TCP/IP
     connection is alive and functional.  If you can start up an xterm
     this same node and display it to the X Station, do an xlsfonts and
     verify that you do have access to the fonts on that host.  This will
     verify that tftp is working and that permissions are OK.

     I have installed a number of X Stations on a number of different
     host systems running various flavors of UNIX, and have not encountered
     this situation.

nb>
nb>Any help (except telling me to buy a different X terminal) is appreciated.
nb>
     You bought the right X Station.  Why don't you send me information on
     the configuration parameters on the X Station, the .Config file, the
     internet addresses of the pertinent nodes, etc.  I will try to help
     you further on this issue.

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