[net.columbia] challenger/houston communications

nasa (04/01/83)

Does anyone out there know what frequency NASA is using for radio
transmission between the Challenger and Houston during the STS-6
mission?  I know that they were using 146.475 Mhz a few missions
ago, but was unable to pick up anything during STS-5.
Thanks in advance.

	foxvax1!nasa		Bob McNally

karn (04/02/83)

The frequency you specified is in the amateur 2-meter band; I doubt very
seriously that NASA uses it directly for air-to-ground transmissions.
This may have been the frequency used by one of the amateur repeaters
authorized during the last mission to rebroadcast shuttle communications
that were picked off the NASA circuit (NASCOM) for the benefit of
local amateurs listening in.  As far as I know, only the Johnson Space
Center and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory amateur radio clubs did this
last time.

The actual frequencies used for shuttle communications are as follows.
Source is the Rockwell Space Shuttle Transportation System Press
Information kit.

Uplinks (ground to shuttle, all are phase modulated:)
S-band NASA Space Tracking and Data Acquisition Network:
2106.4 mhz (primary)
2041.9 mhz (secondary)

Department of Defense Air Force Satellite Control Facility:
1831.8 mhz (primary)
1775.7 mhz (secondary)

Downlinks (orbiter to ground), PM:
2287.5 mhz (primary)
2217.5 mhz (secondary)
FM Downlinks:
2250.0 mhz (FM operational transmitter)
2205.0 mhz (DFI transmitter)

These S-band links can be used for wideband data, digitized voice
and FM video.  Receiving (and decoding) them directly would be a VERY
challenging job, but the information to do so is probably available in the
tons of shuttle project reports available from NTIS.

There is also a UHF (actually high VHF) conventional analog voice-only
system, used over smaller ground stations.  Frequencies are 296.8 mhz
primary and 259.7 mhz secondary.  The military emergency frequency of
243.0 mhz is also available.  This system is much more reasonable to
intercept, requiring only a scanner covering the correct frequency range.

However, the shuttle in its low, typically 28 degree inclination orbit
makes only very brief, quick, low elevation passes over most northern US
locations, and any direct reception would be quite limited.  Unless you
live near one of the tracking stations, you would also hear only one
side of the conversation.

If you want to see and hear just about everything, your best bet is to
ignore all the information I've just given you and get yourself a
domestic TV satellite receiver. Point it either at Satcom 1, transponder
9 or Satcom 2, transponder 13. I'm not sure which, as Johnson Space
Center gave me the first answer and Goddard Space Flight Center gave me
the second; not having a receiver (yet) I am unable to verify which is
correct.  In any case, the transponder in question is used during
missions to carry NASCOM, the relatively "clean" audio and video feed
provided to the TV networks for subsequent butchering.

Lacking a backyard satellite receiver, call 900-410-6272 and hear the
audio (as your quarters tick away...)

Phil Karn

kevenb (04/03/83)

If anyone does know the HAM frequencies which repeat the NASA comms, please
post them.  My scanner programming finger is ready.

Keven