ajudge@maths.tcd.ie (Alan Judge) (02/16/91)
Can anyone recommend a company that is willing to accept either emailed, or faxed credit card orders, to ship books to Ireland? (I know about info@techbook.com, and, if they reply, I'll go with them.) [ I originally tried faxing an order to OR&A using the number Randal gave in his original posting. (I wanted to order direct from the US, because the Irish and UK distributors won't have the book for months.) I heard nothing for about two weeks, and then got a fax from Addison-Wesley (the UK distributors for OR&A??) saying that they won't have the book in stock till May!! I'd love to know why OR&A forwarded my order to someone who won't have copies for ages? The WHOLE POINT for ordering from the US in the first place was to avoid the delay. ] -- Alan Judge ajudge@maths.tcd.ie a.k.a. amjudge@cs.tcd.ie +353-1-772941 x1782 "COBOL is the revenge of some witch burned in Salem, [...]" (Bill Davidsen)
merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal L. Schwartz) (02/18/91)
In article <1991Feb16.150429.12630@maths.tcd.ie>, ajudge@maths (Alan Judge) writes: | Can anyone recommend a company that is willing to accept either emailed, | or faxed credit card orders, to ship books to Ireland? | [ I originally tried faxing an order to OR&A using the number Randal gave | in his original posting. (I wanted to order direct from the US, because | the Irish and UK distributors won't have the book for months.) I heard | nothing for about two weeks, and then got a fax from Addison-Wesley (the UK | distributors for OR&A??) saying that they won't have the book in stock till | May!! I'd love to know why OR&A forwarded my order to someone who won't | have copies for ages? The WHOLE POINT for ordering from the US in the | first place was to avoid the delay. ] I'm very sorry that international customers are at the mercy of Addison Wesley. A/W has the rights to all international distribution for OR&A's books, so when an order comes in to OR&A, they must forward it to A/W for handling. I have been told by my contact at OR&A that A/W is recieving 1100 (!) books within the next few days. Hopefully, after a slow boat-ride across the puddle (in both directions), they'll start showing up in stores and such. TECHbooks is prepared to handle the occasional international shipment of single *autographed* copies only (since A/W is the only authorized shipper of naked books). But the freight would probably kill ya, because you'd be paying for one-up shipping. Write info@techbook.com for more assistance. print "Just another Perl [book] hacker," -- /=Randal L. Schwartz, Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 ==========\ | on contract to Intel's iWarp project, Beaverton, Oregon, USA, Sol III | | merlyn@iwarp.intel.com ...!any-MX-mailer-like-uunet!iwarp.intel.com!merlyn | \=Cute Quote: "Intel: putting the 'backward' in 'backward compatible'..."====/
domo@tsa.co.uk (Dominic Dunlop) (02/19/91)
[I'm posting because there may be others in the same position as myself -- a posted response would be appreciated. And would anybody posting follow-ups please direct them only to the appropriate group.] In article <1991Feb18.060800.29648@iwarp.intel.com> merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: > I'm very sorry that international customers are at the mercy of > Addison Wesley. A/W has the rights to all international distribution > for OR&A's books, so when an order comes in to OR&A, they must forward > it to A/W for handling. Would this explain why the credit-card order that I placed for a copy at the OR&A booth at the Uniforum show last month has yet to produce goods here in England? Still, I have got a tee short with a camel on it: I was allowed to walk away with that. (And, no, I couldn't make it to the Wednesday evening signing: I was busy internationalizing.) And, by the way, OR&A, PLEASE don't make agreements like this: you cannot be unaware of how many international mail order sales you make. We don't deal with you direct for the fun of it -- although, admitedly, it's a little more fun than with many other outfits. A-W's action seems, in the best tradition of publishing, to be designed to maximize its income from the deal without necessarily maximizing sales of the books. Which brings me on to the weird cross-post to rec.music.folk: Fairport Convention's stupid deal with Rough Trade for the distribution of their latest album means that they are not allowed to sell copies at concerts or by mail order through their fan club. They're surely losing sales as a result -- more sales than Rough Trade is gaining. But any that Rough Trade does gain mean money for Rough Trade. Moral. You gotta watch distributors! -- Dominic Dunlop
bush@prg.ox.ac.uk (Mark Bush) (02/21/91)
In article <1991Feb19.084533.2214@tsa.co.uk> domo@tsa.co.uk (Dominic Dunlop) writes: > In article <1991Feb18.060800.29648@iwarp.intel.com> merlyn@iwarp.intel.com > (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: > > I'm very sorry that international customers are at the mercy of > > Addison Wesley. A/W has the rights to all international distribution > > for OR&A's books, so when an order comes in to OR&A, they must forward > > it to A/W for handling. > > A-W's action seems, in the best tradition of publishing, to be designed > to maximize its income from the deal without necessarily maximizing > sales of the books. > > Moral. You gotta watch distributors! The word I got from A-W was that OR&A were not giving them the distribution until May. They seemed to imply that it was a hold-up on the part of OR&A that means that books are not getting over here (or to any non-US places, I guess). Does anyone have the scoop on this? I was hoping to do an order for a few people over here to cut shipping costs, but it seems that bulk orders are a no-go and shipping at $20-25 per copy is not my idea of fun. I don't want to end up with a phone bill the size of an average defense budget by phoning OR&A myself. The question, I guess, is who really *is* responsibly for the distributions? Is it really OR&A or is A-W giving me the brush-off? Mark
sfy@dmp.csiro.au (Shane Youl) (02/23/91)
From article <BUSH.91Feb21104328@thom5.prg.ox.ac.uk>, by bush@prg.ox.ac.uk (Mark Bush): > In article <1991Feb19.084533.2214@tsa.co.uk> domo@tsa.co.uk (Dominic Dunlop) writes: > >> In article <1991Feb18.060800.29648@iwarp.intel.com> merlyn@iwarp.intel.com >> (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: >> > I'm very sorry that international customers are at the mercy of >> > Addison Wesley. A/W has the rights to all international distribution >> > for OR&A's books, so when an order comes in to OR&A, they must forward >> > it to A/W for handling. >> >> A-W's action seems, in the best tradition of publishing, to be designed >> to maximize its income from the deal without necessarily maximizing >> sales of the books. >> >> Moral. You gotta watch distributors! > > The word I got from A-W was that OR&A were not giving them the > distribution until May. They seemed to imply that it was a hold-up on > the part of OR&A that means that books are not getting over here (or to > any non-US places, I guess). > > Does anyone have the scoop on this? I was hoping to do an order for a > few people over here to cut shipping costs, but it seems that bulk > orders are a no-go and shipping at $20-25 per copy is not my idea of > fun. I don't want to end up with a phone bill the size of an average > defense budget by phoning OR&A myself. > > The question, I guess, is who really *is* responsibly for the > distributions? Is it really OR&A or is A-W giving me the brush-off? > > Mark Hi, What follows is the response I got directly from OR&A. I hope this helps. ------------- Hello Shane, Our latest book Programming Perl will be distributed in Australia by Addison Wesley. The book was delayed due to a problem with the covers, but is now being shipped to our distributors. Below, I have listed Addsion Wesley's address. 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bush@prg.ox.ac.uk (Mark Bush) (02/27/91)
In article <1991Feb22.221138.19554@dmp.csiro.au> sfy@dmp.csiro.au (Shane Youl) writes: > What follows is the response I got directly from OR&A. I hope this helps. > > ------------- > Hello Shane, > > Our latest book Programming Perl will be distributed in Australia by > Addison Wesley. The book was delayed due to a problem with the > covers, but is now being shipped to our distributors. I have checked again with A-W and they say that this is *not* the case (at least in the UK). They say that OR&A are not shipping them copies of the book until May and went on about OR&A being very slow with these things. Many appologies to those that this subject doesn't interest for slogging this out here---I guess it goes to show how popular the Camel Book is (will be 8*). Since A-W are so adamant that May is when OR&A will supply the book, I guess I am now resigned to waiting. 8*( The problem, of course, is that it seems unlikely that we non-US folks will be able to get our hands on autographed copies without incurring vast shipping fees from the US - sigh. Mark while(time<673056000){sleep(86400);}; print "Just another Perl Book reader,";