[soc.religion.islam] Taqqiya

sadeghi@oxy.edu (Behnam Sadeghi) (06/06/90)

In article <6161@accuvax.nwu.edu>,ahmed@ecs.umass.edu (Syed Khaleel Ahmed) writes:

In article <60700042@sunb3>, abbas@sunb3.cs.uiuc.edu writes:

### I don't know what you may think but I cannot approve the practice of
### taqqiyah, muta marriage, the shortening of the prayer day to three
### rather than five prayer times, the assertion that some imams are
### above the prophets,  and the denigration of Omar, Abu Baker, or Aysha.
### Short of this I would be happy to unite with any muslim.
###
### Omar
##  Here we go again, hope this time you can swallow it.
## Taqqiyah:  To answer this problem, let's ask the following question, Does
##	    God take your believe with what you say or what you believe in
##	    your heart? Answer:  It is do not matter what you tell people
##	    but what God knows in your heart.  This answer is in Surah "the
##	    Cow (2:225) translated by M. H. Shakir
##	    " Allah does not call you to account for what is vain in your
##	      oaths, but He will call you to account for what your hearts
##	      have earned, and Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing."
##	    So as you see Taqqiyah is not bad thing you think it is, and
##	    it is optional for Muslims.
##
#	      I don't exactly know what Taqqiyah means.
#
## Muta marriage:  Just tell me if the prophet allowed for his soldier when
##		 they were in battle far from home or not?  How come it
#			   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
##		 became illegal at the time of Osman!!!!  Who give any body
##		 the power to forbid, something God Allowed.  Even the prophet
##		 could not do that, remember the vers which came when the
##		 prophet forbid himself to eat honey.  So if you agree that it
##		 was allowed in the day of the prophet, so what happen to it
##		 now.  How it became forbidden?  Can we say that Allah have
##		 changed his mind about this matter, and forbid it after he
##		 allowed?  Is Islam is a game allowing allow and forbid the
##		 same matter?
#
#	   Please note the "in battle far from home". This was an exceptional
#circumstance.

	   Very well said.  So as a Sunni you agree that mut'a is
	   permitted under special circumstances.  What do you think
	   about the fact that the majority of Sunnis consider mut'ah
	   prohibited regardless of what the circumstances are?

## prays:		 No body has said that it shouldn't be at five different time
##		 but also, no body can deny that conbining doing Asr directly
##		 after Zuhr, and Isha after Magrib for convinience.  As far
##		 as I know, the inportance is the prays are done both side
##		 of the day and middle of the day, as stated in the Quran.
##		 Ofcourse Sunna said it is allowed in certain situation, and
##		 cannot be done all the time.  But as far as I see it, the
##		 importance is that all five prays are done, and does not
##		 matter if 2 prays were 2 hours after their succesor.
##
#			 Islam isn't something you follow at your convenience.
#It is Allah's command that is supreme. If he wants you to pray 5 times, you
#have got to do it 5 times. Again, exceptional circumstances could mean
#slight readjustments.

	   The whole point is that Shias believe that the Prophet
	   Mohammad didn't make it obligatory (wajib) for Moslems to
	   pray at five distinct times.  Iqbal Mustafa Khan posted an
	   article which contained a question from Maulana Maududi on
	   exactly this question.  The questioner mentioned the fact
	   that Shias base their way of prayer on the way Imam
	   Zaynalabedin (the grandson of Imam Ali) prayed and Imam
	   Zaynalabedin learned his prayers directly from Ali.
	   According to Prophet Mohammad, Ali was the best
	   jurisprudent among his ummah (according to Sunnis, the
	   fourth best), so how can you criticize Shias for praying
	   in the way the Prophet and Imam Ali prayed?

	   Behnam Sadeghi