[soc.religion.islam] Is Jesus Really God?

amin@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aminuddin Ahmad) (07/18/90)

  
                 I S   J E S U S   R E A L L Y   G O D ? 

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        Published by: 
             THE INSTITUTE OF ISLAMIC INFORMATION AND EDUCATION 
             P.O. Box 41129,
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             Muslim Community Center, 
             Chicago, Illinois U.S.A. 
             
        Digitized by: 
             Aminuddin Ahmad
             Islamic Study Center 
             3030 N.Maryland Ave.
             Milwaukee, WI 53211. 
             (Malaysian student at UW-Milwaukee, July 1990) 

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             Without a doubt, you have often heard the claim that 
        Jesus is God, the second person in the "Holy Trinity." 
        However, the very bible which is used as a basis for 
        knowledge about Jesus and as the basis for doctrine 
        within Christianity clearly belies this claim. We urge 
        you to consult your own Bible and verify that the 
        following conclusions are not drawn out of context:
             
             
        1.GOD IS ALL KNOWING... BUT JESUS WAS NOT
             
             When speaking of the day of judgement, Jesus clearly 
        gave evidence of a limitation on his knowledge when he 
        said, "but of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not 
        the angels which are in heaven, neither the son, but the 
        Father" (Mark 13:32 and Matt 24:36). But God knows all. 
        His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of 
        his own admission, did not know when the day of judgement 
        would be, is clear proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, 
        and that Jesus is therefore not God. 


        2.GOD IS ALL-POWERFUL... BUT JESUS WAS NOT 

             While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself 
        admitted that the power he had was not his own but was 
        derived from God when he said, "Verily, verily I say unto 
        you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth 
        the Father do..." (St. John 5:19). Again he said, "I can 
        of mine own self do nothing: As I hear I judge, and my 
        judgement is just because I seek not mine own will but 
        the will of the Father which has sent me" (St. John 
        5:30). But God is not only all-powerful, he is also the 
        source of all power and authority. That Jesus, of his own 
        admission, could do nothing on his own is clear proof 
        that Jesus is not all-powerful, and that therefore Jesus 
        is not God. 
             
        
        3.GOD DOES NOT HAVE A GOD...BUT JESUS DID HAVE A GOD 

             God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He 
        does not call upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus 
        acknowledged that there was one whom he worshipped and to 
        whom he prayed when he said, "I ascend unto my Father and 
        your Father, and to my God and your God" (St. John 
        20:17). He is also reported to have cried out while on 
        the cross, "My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?" 
        (Matt 27:46). If Jesus were God, then couldn't this be 
        read, "Myself, myself why hast thou forsaken me?" Would 
        that be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord's 
        prayer, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup 
        pass from me: Nevertheless not as I will but as thou 
        wilt" (Matt 36:36-39). Was Jesus praying to himself? That 
        Jesus, of his own admission and by his own actions, 
        acknowledged, worshipped, nd prayed to another being as 
        God is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God. 


        4.GOD IS AN INVISIBLE SPIRIT... BUT JESUS WAS FLESH AND 
        BLOOD

             While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus 
        himself said that this could not be done with God when he 
        said, "No man hath seen God at anytime" (St. John 1:18). 
        "Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His 
        shape" (St. John 5:37). He also said in St. John 4:24, 
        "God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship 
        him is spirit and truth." That Jesus would say that no 
        one had seen or heard God at any time, while his 
        followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that 
        Jesus was not God.
             
             
        5.NO ONE IS GREATER THAN GOD AND NO ONE CAN DIRECT HIM... 
        BUT JESUS ACKNOWLEDGED SOMEONE GREATER THAN HIMSELF WHOSE 
        WILL WAS DISTINCT FROM HIS OWN
             
             Perhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus 
        and God are not equal, and therefore not one and the 
        same, come again from the mouth of Jesus himself who said 
        in St. John 14:28, "My Father is greater than I." When 
        someone referred to him as good master in Matt 19:17, 
        Jesus responded, "Why callest thou me good? There is no one
        good but one, that is God..." Furthermore, Jesus drew 
        clear distinctions between himself and God when he said, 
        "I proceeded forth and came from God, neither came I of 
        myself but He sent me" (St. John 8:42). Jesus gave clear 
        evidence of his subordination to God, rather than his 
        equality with God, when he said in Luke 22:42 "not my 
        will but thine be done" and in St. John 5:30, "I seek not 
        mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent 
        me." Than Jesus would admit that he did not come into the 
        world on his own initiative but was directed to do so, 
        that he would acknowledge another being as greater than 
        himself , and that he would negate his own will in 
        deference to affirming the will of another, give clear 
        proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One and therefore 
        Jesus is not God.
             
             
        CONCLUSION
             
             The Church recognizes the Bible as the primary 
        source of knowledge about God and Jesus. But since the 
        Bible makes it clear that Jesus is not the Supreme Being 
        and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon what basis have 
        you come to believe otherwise?
        
             My brothers and sisters, the belief that the Supreme 
        Being is a Trinity is false and completely inconsistent 
        with the words of Jesus as presented in the Bible. God is 
        one, not three. He is a perfect unity.
        
             If you are interested in the truth about God and 
        your relationship to Him, we invite you to investigate 
        the religion of Islam. 
             
             
        WHAT IS THE WORD OF GOD ABOUT JESUS:


        A.REGARDING SONSHIP OF JESUS:
        
             That is Jesus, son of Mary, in word of truth, 
        concerning which they are doubting. It is not for God to 
        take a son unto Him. Glory be to Him! When He decrees a 
        thing, He but says to it "Be," and it is (Qur'an 
        19:34,35). 
        
             And they say 'The All-merciful has taken unto 
        Himself a son.' You have indeed advanced something 
        hideous. The heavens are well nighrent of it and the 
        earth split asunder, and the mountains well nigh fall 
        down crashing for that they have attributed to the All-
        Merciful a son; and it behooves not the All-Merciful to 
        take a son. None is there in the heavens and earth but he 
        comes to the All-Merciful as a servant (Qur'an 19:88-93). 

             Truly the likeness of Jesus, in God's sight, is as 
        Adam's likeness; He created him of dust, then said He 
        unto him, "Be," and he was (Qur'an 3:59).
             
             People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your 
        religion, and say not as to God but the truth. The 
        Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only the Messenger of 
        God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a spirit 
        from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say 
        not, 'Three', Refrain, better it is for you. God is only 
        one God. Glory be to Him - that He should have a son! To 
        Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth, 
        God suffices for a guardian. 
                                 

        B.REGARDING JESUS BEING GOD
             
             And when God said, "O Jesus son of Mary, did you say 
        unto men, "Take me and my mother as gods, apart from 
        God?" He said, 'To You be glory! It is not mine to say 
        what I have right to. If I indeed said it, You knew it, 
        knowing what is within my soul, and I do not know what is 
        within Your soul; You know the things unseen. I only said 
        to them what You did command me: "Serve God, my Lord and 
        your Lord." And I was a witness over them, while I 
        remained among them; but when You did take me to Yourself 
        the Watcher over them; You are the witness of everything' 
        (Qur'an 5:116,117). 


        C.REGARDING CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS 
             
             And for their unbelief, and their uttering against 
        Mary a mighty calumny, and for their saying, 'We slew the 
        Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of God'... yet 
        they did not slay him, neither crucified him, only a 
        likeness of that was shown to them. Those who are at 
        variance concerning him surely are in doubt regarding 
        him, they have no knowledge of him, except the following 
        of surmise; and they did not slay him of certainty... no 
        indeed; God raised him up to Him; God is Almighty, All-
        Wise. There is not one of the people of the book  but 
        will assuredly believe in him before his death, and on 
        the Resurrection Day he will be a witness against them 
        (Qur'an 4:156-159). 

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