[soc.religion.islam] A question about Ginnies/Angels?

kriz%skat.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dennis Kriz) (08/24/90)

I was once told that muslims believe in the existance of purely spiritual
beings, that are popularly known as ginnies.  Is this true, or are ginnies
more part of Arab folklore, like say dwarves/elves or vodniks are part of 
Germanic or Slavic folk-traditions.

dennis
kriz@skat.usc.edu

zama@midway.uchicago.edu (iftikhar uz zaman) (08/24/90)

Dennis Kriz writes:

>I was once told that muslims believe in the existance of purely spiritual
>beings, that are popularly known as ginnies.  Is this true, or are ginnies
>more part of Arab folklore, like say dwarves/elves or vodniks are part of 
>Germanic or Slavic folk-traditions.

    The second-last word in the Quran mentions the Jinn specifically (min
al jinnati wa al-nas).  Whether they are "purely spiritual beings" I don't
know.  But certainly the Quran contains reference to them (there is also
the whole"chapter" --known in Muslim terminology as "sura"--of the Quran
which recounts the incident of Jinn coming to meet the Prophet [surat al-
Jinn]).  There are also a lot of hadiths on the subject.  A very reliable
and comprehensive book on the subject (unfortunately, in Arabic) is
Akam al-Marjan fi Ahkam al-Jann.

hadith=saying of the Prophet.

                                    

abaza@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (08/25/90)

In article <1990Aug24.050946.14986@laguna.ccsf.caltech.edu> kriz%skat.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dennis Kriz) writes:
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>I was once told that muslims believe in the existance of purely spiritual
>beings, that are popularly known as ginnies.  Is this true, or are ginnies
>more part of Arab folklore, like say dwarves/elves or vodniks are part of 
>Germanic or Slavic folk-traditions.
>
>dennis
>kriz@skat.usc.edu

Ginnies is a part of the muslim creed (belief). The fact is the satan is
one of them. Other ginnies were used by Solomon, in the same way as Solomon
(Sulaiman PBUH) used and talked to the animals.
I cannot confirm but I was hearing alot about people in the middle east can
still use the ginnies. I saw many people that claimed their usage.

kriz%skat.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dennis Kriz) (08/27/90)

Thanks for your replies.  Now that I know that ginnies are part of Islamic
belief, can someone explain to me how they relate to Angels?  Are Angels
basically good ginnies, and Satan an evil one?  Or are they entities 
altogether?  Catholics believe for instance in guardian Angels, do Muslims
believe similarly?

dennis
kriz@skat.usc.edu

abaza@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (08/30/90)

In article <14657@wpi.wpi.edu> kriz%skat.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dennis Kriz) writes:
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>Thanks for your replies.  Now that I know that ginnies are part of Islamic
>belief, can someone explain to me how they relate to Angels?  Are Angels
>basically good ginnies, and Satan an evil one?  Or are they entities 
>altogether?  Catholics believe for instance in guardian Angels, do Muslims
>believe similarly?
>
>dennis
>kriz@skat.usc.edu

There was one question in your old question. "Are the ginies pure
spiritual being". 

We have three classes of creatures.
Angeles, who were created without the ability to disobey Allah. Not
        to say that they are good but because they are made so.

Ginnies : Can do good or bad on there choice. We are told that they are
        created of fire. Satan is one of those who hase chosen to do only
        bad. The ones who do good will be rewarded and the others will
        be punished.


Humans : Can do good or bad on ther choice. We are told that they are
       made of the sand. Same as ginnies they will be either reward or
       punished.

kriz%skat.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dennis Kriz) (08/30/90)

I'd like to correct my question...


In article <14657@wpi.wpi.edu> kriz%skat.usc.edu@usc.edu (Dennis Kriz) writes:

|Thanks for your replies.  Now that I know that ginnies are part of Islamic
|belief, can someone explain to me how they relate to Angels?  Are Angels
|basically good ginnies, and Satan an evil one?  Or are they separate entities
|                                                            ^^^^^^^^
|altogether?  Catholics believe for instance in guardian Angels, do Muslims
|believe similarly?

the word separate (or different) is rather important in that sentence I 
believe :-) ... serves me right for not checking my note beforehand!

(not wishing to be a heretic... :-)

dennis
kriz@skat.usc.edu