mughal@iago.caltech.edu (Mughal, Asim) (11/04/90)
__Asim Mughal_______________________________________________________________ I only represent myself, not my university and/or my employer. --flames & unsolicited e-mail will be sent to 'dead-file area Mughal@citiago.bitnet mughal@Caltech.bitnet mughal@iago.caltech.edu ____________________________________________________________________________ Joshua Geller asks whether the differecens of a Muslim with Israel will be political or religious. I see following differences of a Muslim with Israel: 1. A Muslim should be able to go to the third most holy Masjid in Islam, Al-Aqsa. Prophet peace be upon him said travel is allowed for only three Masjids. 1) Masjidal-Haram in Makkah. 2) Masjidal-Nabwi in Madinah 3) Masjidal-Aqsa in Yaroshalam. 2. It is duty of all Muslims, according to Koran, to fight all those who drive you (or your brothers) from your homes. Muslims consider occupation of Falasteenies driving them out of there homes. 3. Does anybody in the network or not disagree that the killings of Falasteenies in occupied Falsteen should be stopped. If you do then you are taking the side of killers. Toleration of people of other faiths does not mean that they can kill us and we "tolerate". It means that we live in peace and harmony. If there is a Muslim government and in the minority non-muslims there is a dispute, then that dispute be resolved according to the minority's rules. This is just an example of tolerance in Islam. I do not see this kind of tolerance in today's western "civilized" nations. May be the "barbarians" were better! Regards.
isaac@goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Isaac Balbin) (11/05/90)
mughal@iago.caltech.edu (Mughal, Asim) writes: >3. Does anybody in the network or not disagree that the killings >of Falasteenies in occupied Falsteen should be stopped. If you >do then you are taking the side of killers. Can I ask for clarification and definition. Where exactly is occupied Falasteen? This question cannot be answered without such clarification. It is my understanding that Islam respects the rights of people to their homeland. Even in 1948, this area was part of Israel. Is there an Islamic source to indicate that this is not the case? Does Islam believe in an eye for an eye? If so, why were the people praying at the Wall attacked? If not, why were these innocents picked on? Does Islam say that you can pick on anybody, or is it better to fight he who fights you. My understanding is that none of those who were praying were fighting. -- Dr. Isaac Balbin, RMIT Victoria University of Technology, Department of Computer Science, ACSNET: isaac@goanna.cs.rmit.OZ 124 La Trobe Street, INTERNET: isaac@goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU Melbourne, 3001, AUSTRALIA JANET: isaac%au.oz.rmit.cs.goanna@uk.ac.ukc Phone: +61 3 660 2348 BITNET: isaac%goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU@relay.cs.net Fax: +61 3 662 1617 UUCP:..!uunet!goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU!isaac
mughal@iago.caltech.edu (Mughal, Asim) (11/10/90)
[Reminder by a moderator: replies to this article must remain relevant to Islam, otherwise they won't be posted.] In article <1990Nov5.005143.634@wpi.WPI.EDU>, isaac@goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Isaac Balbin) writes... > It is my understanding that Islam respects the rights >of people to their homeland. It most certainly does, does Judaism respect that? Why does Kahane says "I want the Arabs out of Israel. Out, out out!"? > Even in 1948, this area was part of >Israel. It certainly was, that was the time Israel occupied Falasteen, the question really is who was there prior to 1948? Is that not driving the people of land out of their homes? > Does Islam believe in an eye for an eye? Islam certainly believes an eye for an eye and all Muslims are obliged to obey. BUT what about Judaism, does it not believe in it, can they murder 21 people for throwing stones. An eye for an eye to me means that they if someone throws stone at you, you may throw stones at him, but bullets ... Nah! > If so, why were the people praying at the Wall attacked? > If not, why were these innocents picked on? > Does Islam say that you can pick on anybody, or is it better > to fight he who fights you. My understanding is that none of those > who were praying were fighting. I agree that praying is not fighting and if there are people praying they are not fighting. But these are the people who drove those Falasteenis out of there home and throwing stones is the demonstration of frustrations these people have. Still not deserving bullets. __Asim Mughal_______________________________________________________________ I only represent myself, not my university and/or my employer. --flames & unsolicited e-mail will be sent to 'dead-file area Mughal@citiago.bitnet mughal@Caltech.bitnet mughal@iago.caltech.edu ____________________________________________________________________________