carlc@teklabs.UUCP (05/17/84)
<<>> UNC should let Maroney back on the net. He seems to be perfectly capable of screwing up his own life with no help whatsoever from them.
wm@tekchips.UUCP (05/19/84)
An interesting situation for UNC. I believe that UNC has the
right to restrict people's access to the net from UNC accounts,
for the very reason that when you submit to the net from a site,
you are taken as a representative of that site. When you abuse
that right, it can cause other people at that site embarassment.
Some people mention how other students at UNC were quick to
"turn Tim in". There might be a reason for this.
I'm surprised at how quick people are to jump on the faculty at
UNC. They do not owe Tim a job there. They offered him one, on
the condition that he would not post to the net. I've seen the
postings that got him in trouble, and frankly, I can't blame them.
>From his own side of the story, it seems obvious that he tried
to push the limits every way he could, even when they were about
to restore his priveleges. If in the end, the faculty at UNC
acted with less than ultimate patience, who can blame them?
I'm sure you will never hear UNC's side of this story, and for
good reason. So stop judging the situation.
I think Tim Maroney is smart and has done some interesting
work. I just wish he would grow up.
Wm Leler
formerly at UNC.eric@whuxle.UUCP (Eric Holtman) (05/22/84)
--- groan. Just when you thought it was safe to let bugs live . . . --- I don't know about people who say that Tim really does not represent UNC. Way back, last summer, when I began to consider a college at which to donate four years of my life, and took a look at some net sites. Back then tim maroney was about the only person from unc to send outgoing news. That's got to be the biggest turn off in the universe. I wouldn't have gone there even if I had been given full scholarship, room and board, if I had to base my judgement on unc!tim alone. (Since then of course, we have seen the faculty's end of the deal). I have even had friends visit down there, and low and behold, not all unc'ers are clones of Tim. However, old impressions are hard to break, and I don't know if I can ever think of unc again without thinking of that turkey, tim, who, in my opinion, got what he deserved.
nrh@inmet.UUCP (05/24/84)
#R:teklabs:-286400:inmet:4000069:000:1597 inmet!nrh May 24 01:46:00 1984 >***** inmet:net.followup / whuxle!eric / 7:22 pm May 21, 1984 >I don't know about people who say that Tim really does not >represent UNC. Way back, last summer, when I began to consider >a college at which to donate four years of my life, and took a look >at some net sites. Back then tim maroney was about the only person >from unc to send outgoing news. That's got to be the biggest turn >off in the universe. I wouldn't have gone there even if I had been given >full scholarship, room and board, if I had to base my judgement on >unc!tim alone. I doubt if ANY college faculty would be foolhardy enough to try and educate you if they knew you were content to let their netnews output (from one person!) determine your picture of their college. On the other hand, it would be obvious that you badly needed the education. >(Since then of course, we have seen the faculty's end >of the deal). I have even had friends visit down there, and low and >behold, not all unc'ers are clones of Tim. However, old impressions are >hard to break, and I don't know if I can ever think of unc again without >thinking of that turkey, tim, who, in my opinion, got what he deserved. Certainly you're helping surpress Tim (and other, possibly more deserving dissidents who might crop up at UNC) by giving anyone who believes it "proof" that someone would regard UNC as bad because Tim contributed netnews from there. Was this your intent? For my part, you've about convinced me of your willingness to form lifetime opinions without nearly enough information. Nice work. - Nat Howard