[net.columbia] Bellyache

kcarroll@utzoo.UUCP (Kieran A. Carroll) (02/21/85)

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I'm sorry about the multiple posting, but people in all
three of these newsgroups have taken to a particularly 
obnoxious practice, which I for one hope can be
curtailed through the judicious application of peer
pressure.  What I'm objecting to is the posting of
follow-up messages of the following form:

(routing and message-id info.)
>
> (THE ENTIRE TEXT of a message that EVERYBODY subscribing
>  to the newsgroup has already read , usually only in the last day or
>  two, and of which NOBODY on the net has yet forgotten
>  any of the details.
>>   Sometimes there'll be two
>>>    (or more)
>>   levels of these inserts; as far as I can see, their
>>   only purposes are to (a) demonstrate the sender's
>>   cleverness at being able to insert one message into
>>   another one, (b) increase the throughput of the net,
>>   without actually increasing the information content
>>   of the messages being transmitted, and (c) MAKE ME WASTE
>>   HUGE AMOUNTS OF TIME READING THE SAME MESSAGE OVER AND
>>   OVER AGAIN, ON THE OFF-CHANCE THAT THE SENDER HAS SOMETHING
>>   USEFUL TO SAY (GRRRR!!!!))
>  

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(name, address, birthdate, astrological sign, favorite food
of the sender, along with usually-not-very-entertaining
closing messages, sometimes covering half a screenful
of my terminal, and repeated EVERY SINGLE TIME the malefactor
posts a message!)


   My suggestion is: make posting to the net concise, to the
point and informative.  If you don't have anyhing to say, don't
say anything!  If you're responding to a message that somebody
else posted, do so via MAIL, and NOT via the newsgroup, unless
you're pretty sure that your message is of general interest
(after all, Publish or Perish doesn't yet apply to usenet
postings!).  
   If you disagree with all or part of the above, then 
please respond to me, via mail.  If you agree with all or part
of the above, then please respond to me, via mail.  
Whatever you do, DON'T insert this message into one of your
own, along with a line or two of comments at the end!
   I've been wating for the last month or two for somebody 
else to come out and complain about these nasty practices;
I'm sorry to have to be the one to do it (since I'm such a 
>nice< person, otherwise.  As, they say on the arpanet, Flame Off!
-Kieran A. Carroll
...decvax!utzoo!kcarroll

johnrk@mot.UUCP (John Koehring) (02/27/85)

I second Kieran's sentiments.

al@mot.UUCP (Al Filipski) (02/27/85)

> I second Kieran's sentiments.

What sentiments? Please preface your responses with part of the original
message (set off with ">"s) so we know what you're talking about.

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Alan Filipski, UNIX group, Motorola Microsystems, Tempe, AZ U.S.A
{seismo | ihnp4 } ! ut-sally ! oakhill ! mot ! al
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CRT viewing causes cancer of the eyeballs.

kcarroll@utzoo.UUCP (Kieran A. Carroll) (03/09/85)

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   The irony of Al Filipski's message,

>What sentiments? Please preface your responses with part of the original
>message (set off with ">"s) so we know what you're talking about.

   makes me want to cry...
-- 
     Kieran A. Carroll @ U of Toronto Aerospace Institute
     {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!kcarroll