[ut.chinese] Nov. 29

chi@vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Bo Chi) (11/29/89)

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  Headline News  ....... ..........................................  10
  1) A Letter to ND Editors ........................................ 59
  2) Organization Introduction - Preface  ........................  107
  3) Organization Introduction - Soc.Culture.China  ...............  86

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The University of  Politics  of  Taiwan  will  sponsor  a seminar about the
future of democracy movement in China.  FDC's secretary in general Wan Rin-
nan,  the  author  of  'River  Elegy'  Su  Xiaokang,  chairman  of 'Chinese
Democracy Allience' Hu Peng, and  famous  journalist Liu Binyan will attend
the seminar with some other pro-democracy  activists.      The seminar will
be held in late December.
                                  From: simone@nyspi.bitnet (J. Yang)
                                  Source: World Journal, 11/27/89
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1.        A Letter to ND Editors

            -- By X. Hua from minhua@nereid.sal.ists.ca 
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Dear Editors,

    Concerning the report "China 'would support Brain Drain Plan'" in 
Nov. 28 News Digest, I would like to share my own experience with the
readers who are interested in going to Hong Kong.

    It began about two years ago when I saw a notice in an academic
journal put up by one of the HK universities/polytechnics inviting 
application for the teaching positions available there. I submitted 
my application and was interviewed later by the representatives of the 
school while they travelled in North America. At the interview, both sides
had no idea whether it was possible for a Ph.D. from China to be employed
by a HK institution because it was something that had never happened 
before. But we decided to go ahead anyway.

    A few months later, I was told by the people from the school that 
they had talked with the people of the HK Branch of the Xinhua News Agency
and they were quite supportive of the idea. I was given the offer, and was
told to apply an employment visa to HK from the local British consulate.
The officer in the consulate told me that all the employment visa 
applications to HK was to be forwarded to HK Immigration Department.
The decision would be made by the HK authority, not the consulate.
Another two months passed before the consulate sent me a notice informing
me the denial of my application by the HK Immigration Department.

    And this is the end of the story. Later, I made a direct inquiry about
the reason to the HK Immigration Department and was told that, according
to an agreement between HK and the Chinese government, all mainland 
Chinese who want to enter HK for whatever reasons must have the one-way
or two-way travel document issued by the Chinese Public Security Department.
The only exception is that if the mailander has the permanent residency
of a third country.

    From my unfortunate experience, I got several impressions. 1) A citizen
from any country of the world (perhaps including Taiwan) can apply an 
employment visa to HK as long as he has a valid passport and an employment
contract with some HK institutions. The only exception is the citizen
from the  country -- (mailand of) China, who are governed by an agreement
between HK and Chinese government, no matter he is a cross-border smuggler
or a doctor of philosophy! 2) The Chinese authorities will be glad to see
some Chinese students to work in HK for obvious reasons. But they probably
will use Public Security Department's travel documents to control these
people. This is especially so after June 4. 3) Once you get the permanent 
residency of a third country (no matter what), you are advanced by one big 
grade in the hierarchy of Chinese residence ('Hu4 Kou2') system. Even the HK
government will no longer put you in the same catalogue as the refugee or
smugglers. So try hard to get it! By your excellent performance in the 
university-entry exams, you probably had got rid of your countryside or
small town 'Hu4 Kou2' and obtained  a metropolitan 'Hu4 Kou2', like
Bejing or Shanghai. Now is
the struggle to get rid of your Chinese 'Hu4 Kou2'. 4) As far as Hong Kong
'Hu4 Kou2' is concerned, it used to be much higher than any Chinese one.
But it is devaluating rapidly now. Don't you see the HK people are trying 
every method for the British 'Hu4 Kou2'? 


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2.  Organization Introduction - Preface
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From:     GXU@KENTVM.BITNET   "Xu Gang"

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                             Preface


Numerous organizations have been established by overseas Chinese since they
came across the Pacific Ocean. Some of them are just discussion groups with
a few sores of participants, others  are big associations, claiming tens of
thousands of members; some  are  political,  others  are professional. As a
Chinese living overseas now, or  for anyone who are interested in China and
Chinese, it is quite natural to ask the following questions:

1). What are the motivations that make them associated?
2). How well are they organized?
3). What function are they playing in the overseas Chinese communities?
4). What are the influences of their activities on the situations in China?

Trying to answer these questions, we initiated this program of Organization
Introduction. We have sent letters to  about 30 organizations listed in the
Appendix to invite them to introduce themselves to our readers. Now we have
received a number of Introductions  and  some  others have promised to send
their Introductions later. Here we express our sincere thanks to  those who
have made their contributions to  make  this program possible. Also we hope
that more organizations will join this program.

Now we start posting  the  Introductions  we  have  got  to our readers. we
welcome comments  and  suggestion  from  our  readers  about  this program.
However, we encourage our  readers  who  would  like  to  know more about a
specific organization to contact the organization of his interest directly.

We would highly appreciate  any  help  from  our  readers by providing more
information about any overseas Chinese Organizations that are not listed in
the Appendix. We would like to  get as many organizations to participate as
possible.

Thank you for your interest and we hope that you will enjoy this program.


                             Dong Ping Deng (Social Culture China)
                             Weihe Guan (China-net)
                             Hong Lin   (China Study Forum)
                             Gang Xu    (China News Digest)


Appendix: List of Organizations Invited


Invitation letters have been sent to the following organizations:

1)  The Chinese Association of Agricultural Students and Scholar (CAASS)
2)  American Association of Chinese Comparative Literature (AACCL)
3)  Chinese Business Association (CBA)
4)  Chinese Young Economists Society (CYES)
5)  The Chinese Historians in US (CH)
6)  Association of Chinese Physicists and Astronomers in North America
    and Europe (OCPA)
7)  The Chinese Political Scientists Association
8)  Sino-eco (Chinese Ecologists Club)
9)  China News Digest (ND)                 (e-mail group)
10) China Net                              (e-mail group)
11) China Study Forum (CSF)                (e-mail group)
12) Social Culture China (SCC)             (e-mail group)
13) AI HUA Society       (Ai HUA SHE)
14) Visa-net                               (e-mail group)
15) The National Coordination Committee on Chinese Student Affairs (CCSA)
16) Alliance of Chinese Patriots
17) Chinese Alliance For Democracy (MIN LIAN)
18) Chinese Canadian National Council (CCNC)
19) Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars in Canada (FCSSC)
20) Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars in US (IFCSS)
21) Silicon Valley for Democracy in China
22) The Front of Democracy in China (MIN ZHEN)
23) Human Rights in China (ZHONG GUO REN QUAN)
24) Press Freedom Herald                   (news paper)
25) The voice of June 4th                  (radio station)
26) The Chinese Intellectual               (magazine)
27) The Outcry                             (magazine)
28) The Overseas Chinese Voice             (magazine)

PS. We would highly  appreciate  it  if  anyone  would  provide us with the
mailing address  or the phone  number of the following organization so that
we can send our invitation letter to it:

29) United Association of Students and Scholars of People's Republic of
    China (UASSPRC)


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3.  Organization Introduction - Soc.Culture.China
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From:     Sun@YaleVMS  "Sun,Kang"

======     A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO SOC.CULTURE.CHINA NEWSGROUP      ======

                     By Sun, Kang (Sun@YaleVMS)

1. What is S.C.C.?

S.C.C.  (stands for Soc.Culture.China) is a  NEWSGROUP  on  the  world-wide
computer network USENET.    It was created on November 17, 1987.  Since the
beginning, there have been many articles of  different  subjects,  cute  or
not,  poured  into  this  newsgroup, which engender many debates as one can
imagine.  All kinds of discussions,  debates,  information  exchange,  news
update  happen  on  SCC. It reaches to countries like USA, Canada, England,
Australia,  West  Germany,  Japan,  France,  Norway,  etc.  Its  readership
accounts  to  about  9,000 worldwide, and its traffic is about 100 articles
daily in average.

2. Brief history

Early in 1987, a project under the the name "ChinaNet" was  proposed  by  a
research  group  at  Texas  A&M University to connect BITNet to China. This
project immediately attracted many  Chinese  students  and  scholars.  They
tried  their best to help with the project. Meanwhile, a mailing list, also
called ChinaNet, was created to coordinate the efforts. As  more  and  more
people  signed  up  to  the list, ChinaNet's popularity increased daily. It
played an important role in coordinating  the  1987  Open  Letter  Campaign
simply  because  it was then the most convenient way to reach large Chinese
population. The mailing list soon became  moderated  because  of  too  much
irrelevant  debate  through it. It was clear then that a media dedicated to
China and Chinese affair was in demand. Most of the ChinaNet readers  voted
"yes"  to  the  motion of forming a newsgroup. So came S.C.C.. Although the
ChinaNet project was aborted for ridiculous reasons, S.C.C. stands  active.
Note that the "ChinaNet" mailing list in this article has little to do with
the "China-net", which is a relative young mailing list based on Stanford.

3. How a newsgroup differs from mailing list.

Consider the two ways of getting information: post mail and bulletin board.
If  you  happen to be on a mailing list, (junk mail) comes to your mailbox,
which you either have to read or discard. If you don't  do  anything,  your
mail will soon pile up in your mailbox; while you go to read bulletin board
as you wish. Basically, a newsgroup is a like a  column  on  an  electronic
bulletin  board.  In  particular, S.C.C. is a column dedicated to China and
Chinese affair on the world-wide bulletin board named USENET. But you don't
have  to  live  in the same town or nearby to read the same bulletin board.
Electronically, living in the same town means having access to or "residing
on"  the  same network. Newsgroup articles are stored in a public area of a
nearby computer shared by many computers  and  users.  A  program,  usually
under  the  name RNews, NetNews, News, etc, is designed to read and to post
news articles. You can usually decide if  you  want  to  read  or  to  skip
articles of particular subjects or columns (newsgroups).

4. For Non-USENET residents

For  those  non-USENet  residents,  a  voluntary  rebroadcasting service of
S.C.C.  has been established in the form of a  mailing  list.  The  service
first  started  in  Cornell  University,  then  moved  to  Carnegie  Mellon
University  and  now  is  stationed  in  Yale  University  with   automatic
rebroadcasting  mechanism.  (The  mailing list is still handled in CMU.) If
you sign up to the service, you will get archived article packages daily in
your E-mailbox. Make sure you don't have direct access to USENET before you
sign up to our service, so to avoid unnecessary overflow in your mailbox.

To   subscribe  to  S.C.C   rebroadcasting   service,   send   E-mail    to
listserv@cmuccvma.bitnet with Subject line: Sub SCC-L full_name.

And  to  cancel  your  subscription,  send  E-mail to the same address with
Subject line : Signoff SCC-L.

For readers from Canada, send your subscription and unsubscription  request
to LIST-REQUEST@EAN.UBC.CA.

Happy networking :-))

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Disclaimer:  Part  of  this text is taken from an old and longer version of
"Introduction to S.C.C.", which  was written  jointly by many  people. This
author likes to acknowledge their efforts.

_________________
About  the  author:  Mr.  Sun,  Kang,  Vice President of the Association of
Chinese Students and Scholars at  Yale  (ACSSY)  for the 1989-90  term,  is
currently  working  for  his Ph.D degree in Robotics. In his spare time, he
enjoys hacking on computer networks and his Mac+. His well-regarded work on
network includes  the S.C.C. broadcasting  service  and a Survey on Chinese
Word Processors.


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                       -- Nov. 29 (II), 1989


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1) Suggestions by CSSA Chairman of University of Manitoba ............ 52
2) Letter from Chairman of FCSSC ..................................... 43
3) A Suggestion from University of Alberta ........................... 28
4) Chinese  students  having  trouble gaining entry to the USA
              from Australia ......................................... 39
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1. Suggestions by CSSA Chairman of University of Manitoba

Editor's  Note: This message is originally circulated in the bul-
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Hello!  I  post  a  message from our members regarding the recent
situation  on  Vistor's  Visa Issuing in Beijing. Cssa will write
letters  to appeal Canadian Govrernment for help. People who face
the  same  problem please write letters too. Meanwhile I will ask
FCSSC if they could do something.

To  avoid  any unexpected trouble or unwanted by-products, I sug-
gest you JUST LET THEM KNOW YOUR DIFFICULTIES AND ASK FOR HELP in
your appeal letter. What I want to remind you is, it hasn't to be
the RESPONSIBILITY OF CANADIAN GOVERNMENT to deal with the appli-
cation of student's spouse in a SPECIAL rather than a NORMAL way.
Anyway do not  complain but  ask for help.

In  addition to the Minister of External Affairs, you may use Hot
Line  and  write to other officers as well. Following are the tel
number and some addresses I collected to be your references.

*   Hot   Line:  9:00am-5:00pm  M-F  1-800-267-1299  *  Hon.Lloyd
Axworthy, PC,MP
  Constituency Office
  922 Grosvenor Avenue
  Winnipeg Man
  R3M 0N4 * Bill Blaikie MP
  Winnipeg-Transcona
  NDP External Affirs Critic
  House Of Commons
  K1A 0A6 * E.E Allen
  Director
  Asia and Pacific
  Programs Division
  Department of External Affairs
  Ottawa Ont
  K1A 0G2 * Dorothy Dobbie MP
  2-1080 Waverley St
  Winnipeg Manitoba
   R3T 5S4

Good Luck to everyone!
                                  CSSA  at University of Manitoba
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2. Letter from Chairman of FCSSC
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To all students concerning 'family reunion' issue  (Nov.28, 1989)

Hello friends:

Many  of  you  may have been shocked by a series of rejections of
application for visit visa by student's spouse. We share the con-
cerns  and  anxiety with you. The FCSSC executives have been dis-
cussing this issue for days to find a way to deal with this prob-
lem.   We will certainly do our best to help. A special committee
will  soon  be  appointed.  Our Vice President in External Oliver
Yuan  and  Vice  President in Internal Dennis Lu already began to
contact  Immigration,  CCNC,  CBIE, etc. and will report you more
information and any development.

The  'urgent  appeal' initiated by a group of Chinese students in
my  Univ.--  Univ.  of Manitoba -- contains some thought of FCSSC
executives  board.  The  strategies we suggested are:   1)  Don't
blame,  to  ask a favor, to win sympathy.  2) do it STEP BY STEP,
first  collect  cases, FCSSC will write an inquiry to Immigration
Minister  to  get  some explanation, then FCSSC, all local CSSA's
and  individuals  call  and write to Immigration, MP, etc.. Since
our  fellow students are so concerned and emotional on the situa-
tion,  I  would like to say frankly that probably we'd better not
push  too hard, and not disclose all information to public at the
very  beginning  ---  it might not win sympathy but only lose our
"bargaining  cards"  (actually we don't have many 'cards' in hand
:-) ). Of course the above is only my personal view.

We  very  much  understand  your feeling when hearing your wives'
application  being  or  would be rejected.   But Please still be
patient.  Some problem can be worked out quickly but some not. it
is  not  all  in  our  control. It would probably be better if we
could deal the problem quietly and 'diplomatically'.

FCSSC  volunteers  will  be  always  with you and try our best to
help. Please join your effort with FCSSC and local CSSA's.  Let's
work together.

Yours truly,
Xiaohua Qu at U. of Manitoba
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3. A Suggestion from University of Alberta
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Dear Friends:

Before  taking any actions, it seems that more information on Canadian
Immigiration Law should be gethered.

According to a friend of mine, there is such regulation (or law
maybe)  requiring  that  the  spouse of a PR applicant should not
visit  Canada  until  the immigration status of this applicant is
finalised.   In  the  PR  application  interview,  my  friend was
informed  of  this  regulation  by the immigration officer, after
being  asked  whether  her  husband  wanted  to visit her in near
future.  However, when another person called two months later the
local  immigration center, the person who answered the phone nei-
ther confirmed nor denied the existeness of such regulation.

So,  it  is better to check out its legal stand before taking any
furture actions.

Good luck, folks.

 shuang@alberta.UUCP  		
 U of Alberta, Edm, AB, T6G 2H1
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 4. Chinese  students  having  trouble gaining entry to the USA
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Hi Friends,

I would like to post this article in China News Digest.  I have a
Chinese  student in my department who wants to go to the US to do
his  PhD  in  Computer Science.  His application has already been
accepted  by  the a University in the US.  He was also successful
in  his application for a scholarship.  Last week he went to Syd-
ney  and  obtained a letter of permission form the Chinese consu-
late.   The  letter  of permission basically allowed him to go to
the  US to study.  To sum up, he has qualified for every require-
ments  to  gain  entry  to the US, yet the US consulate in Sydney
refuse  to  give  him  a Student Visa.  This is a very ridiculous
situation  considering  that the US congress has passed a bill to
make  it  easier  for Chinese students to gain permanent resident
status in the US.

Furthermore,  I  would like ask the Chinese students in the US to
lobby  the US government for a change in attitude towards Chinese
students  who  want  to  study  in the US from other parts of the
world.

Finally,  there is an even more ridiculous story, one of the stu-
dent  in  my  department has submitted a paper to a conference in
the  US.   The  paper  was  accepted  but  the US consulate again
refused  to  grant  a  Visa for the student to present the paper.
The  US consulate staff reasoned that this particular student did
not  show any evidence that he will leave the US once the confer-
ence  is  finished.  This is totally ridiculous since the student
already has a scholarship to continue his study in Australia.

Thank you for your attention

Anthony
from munnari!batserver.cs.uq.oz.au!anthony@uunet.UU.NET (Anthony Lee)
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1) Deng Condemns Gorbachev Plans ...................................... 49
2) Three Qinghua Students Committed Suicide in One Month .............. 24

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1. Deng Condemns Gorbachev Plans
         -- by David Chen
            From: scc; kwchan@hkucs.UUCP (Chan Ki Wa)
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China's  senior  leader  Deng  Xiaoping  has  strongly criticised
Soviet  President  Mikhail  Gorbachev  and several socialist bloc
countries for the latest developments in Eastern Europe.

Mr Deng, who met Mr Gorbachev in an historic summit in May at the
height of the student movement, accused the Soviet leader of pur-
suing  a  political  path  which was "not in conformity with true
Marxism-Leninism".

He  also accused Poland, Hungary, East Germany and Czechoslovakia
of "deviating from the correct line".

Mr  Deng  instructed  members  of  the Chinese Communist Party to
further  Marxist  ideology  as  a  prerequisite for improving the
economy, a better sense of security and the general well-being of
the people.

The  remarks were made at one of the small discussion groups dur-
ing  the  four-day  fifth  plenary session of the party's Central
Committee earlier this month.

Present  at the discussions were the six members of the Politburo
Standing  Committee, President Yang Shangkun and the chaireman of
the  National  People's  Congress,  Mr  Wan Li.  It was a similar
get-together  to the one on September 4 when the patriarch talked
about  retiring  and  the abolition of the party Central Advisory
Committee.

But  this was the first time that Mr Deng, who has been apprehen-
sive about developments in Eastern Europe over the past two years
and who is known to be less then enthusiastic with Mr Gorbachev's
perestroika  and  glasnost  programs,  has  criticised the Soviet
leader's policies.

Although  the discussions at the plenary session centred largedly
on  the change in the Central Military Commission and on economic
issues, Mr Deng's preoccupation with Eastern Europe show that the
leadership  is  beginning to work out a new strategy in the light
of developments there.

He  told  the Standing Committee members that China was caught up
in  the  midst  of  rapid  changes  in the world - similar to the
situation  he described in his June 9 speech to commanders of the
martial law troops.
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2. Three Qinghua Students Committed Suicide in One Month
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    According  to  Chinese  Daily  News (World Journal), Nov. 25,
three Qinghua (Beijing) students committed suicide in one month.

    Two  graduate students, Tan Zuji, 23, Dept. of Water Resource
(Shui3  Zi1  Yuan2) and Guo Wei, 24, Dept. of Business Management
(Jing1  Ji4 Guan3 Li3), jumped out of window of their dormitories
on  Oct.  1 and Nov. 2, respectively.  Other students say the two
suicide  students  had been investigated by police and were under
heavy  political  pressure, because of their participation in the
pro-democracy movement.

    A  student  of  Dept.  of  Electrical Engineering (Dian4 JI1)
jumped  dowm  from  third floor on Oct. 31.  He died last week in
hospital.
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