madd@world.std.com (jim frost) (10/28/89)
pdcst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Patrick Champion) writes: >For a complete unix >system with ftp, uucp, cc, the standard utilities, mail, a primitive stop gap >substititue for Motif, and of course the AIX kernal, you pay an enourmous >amount: > Price: $7000.00 > Size: approx 60 Megabytes > Ram: Not sure, but the Model 70 was loaded with 8 Meg. > In the face of these requirements, OS/2 has my vote anyday. What does it cost for an OS/2 system with all of the capabilities of the comparable UNIX system? In other words, what would it cost you to have an OS/2 with ftp, uucp, cc, comparable utilities, mail, and PM? I work it out to be at *least* $3000 and that's being cheap on the LAN software and not counting any other applications. Let's see what AIX offers that OS/2 doesn't for all that money: TCF connectibility to mainframes. This will probably show up under OS/2 someday. Heavy-duty networking support *standard*. Not just remote filesystem access. Paging VM (yes boys and girls, you too can run 16Mb of stuff on your 8Mb system and still have it be usable). Multiple users. File protection. Multiple filesystem support. Now, let's think about other vendor's UNIX's. If you can put up with the loss of TCF, you have Xenix, 386/ix, ESIX, AT&T UNIX, Bell Technologies UNIX, and a couple of others, which give most of the value that AIX does at a fraction of the cost. A full UNIX system, including the text-processing package, will cost under $3,000. Without the full text-processing package it's $2,000 and resellers will give them to you for about $1,600 average (Xenix is somewhat higher). This is about the cost of OS/2 PM with MSC and developer documentation and has all the standard UNIX utilities along with MS-DOS support, NFS, networking, X11R3, and the rest. You *are* getting value for your money. Please, if you're going to do cost and hardware requirements comparisons, compare similar systems. Now back to your regularly scheduled program. jim frost software tool & die madd@std.com
palowoda@fiver.UUCP (Bob Palowoda) (10/29/89)
From article <1989Oct27.201137.22640@world.std.com>, by madd@world.std.com (jim frost): > pdcst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Patrick Champion) writes: > >>For a complete unix >>system with ftp, uucp, cc, the standard utilities, mail, a primitive stop gap >>substititue for Motif, and of course the AIX kernal, you pay an enourmous >>amount: >> Price: $7000.00 >> Size: approx 60 Megabytes >> Ram: Not sure, but the Model 70 was loaded with 8 Meg. >> In the face of these requirements, OS/2 has my vote anyday. 7000.00 !!!! IBM selling it for about 2200.00. Where in the heck are you buying it. By the way I use UNIX with X-windows on a 386 includes C-development, ftp, uucp, system admin shell, mail (of coarse this is included with any unix system), dos emulator, a xenix emulator, editing packages and nfs. All for about 1100.00. This is the unlimited version. ---Bob -- Bob Palowoda pacbell!indetech!palowoda *Home of Fiver BBS* login: bbs Home {sun|daisy}!ys2!fiver!palowoda (415)-623-8809 1200/2400 Work {sun|pyramid|decwrl}!megatest!palowoda (415)-623-8806 2400/9600/19200 TB Voice: (415)-623-7495 Public access UNIX XBBS