[comp.os.os2] comp.os.os2 <---> FidoNET gateway

randall@uvaarpa.virginia.edu (Randall Atkinson) (02/05/90)

This is a formal request for immediate disconnection of the
FidoNET gateway to the USENET group comp.os.os2.

Said gateway was created without discussion or vote on USENET
and has caused the signal to noise ratio of comp.os.os2 to
dramatically decrease.  In particular about 1/3 of the messages
to that group in the past few days have been of the content
"Hi Joe nice to see you here" or "Mike, I sent you the file foobar".

The gateway maintainer and I have discussed this and he informs me
that he cannot set messages originating in FidoNET to have an
appropriate value in the Distribution: field and is not in a position
to filter the messages originating on FidoNET.

Moreover, the charter of the FidoNET group is much broader than
the voted-on charter for the USENET group comp.os.os2 and the
FidoNET group specifically includes postings of the sort that
belong in comp.sources.wanted and comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d and
such on USENET.  

Finally, many of the FidoNET postings appear as a single long line
of text which is unreadable by most USENET people.

These differences in charter and problems creating a suitably
configured gateway cause the situation to be unresolvable at
present.

I have encouraged the FidoNET gateway maintainer to create an OS/2
newsgroup under a fidonet.* or fido.* top-level heirarchy.
(I first heard of the concept from Tom Neff and it makes a lot of
 sense).

The creation of fidonet.os2 would permit USENET folks to selectively
carry the FidoNET articles via existing mechanisms and not have
the USENET group be flooded with messages that are not appropriate
for comp.os.os2 but which apparently are appropriate for a FidoNET
group.

Followup postings are directed to news.admin since this posting
primarily relates to USENET News Administration.

jerry@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Jerry Porter) (02/05/90)

I agree most heartily with this proposal.  The newgroup is after all 
comp.OS.os2 not chatter.software-hardware.os2.  No flame intentend toward
those Fidonet people, out there, whom I am glad to be able to discuse OS2 and
OS2 programming with, but I don't really care to talk about the latest BBS 
program for OS2.  Before the joining most messages were relavent to the 
discusion, but now, a large portion are just irritating.  If a more general
OS2 discusion area was created I would support it, but this is not the
newsgroup for it.



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news@m2xenix.UUCP (Randy Bush) (02/07/90)

You may be please to know that it is FidoNet gating policy not to gate
newsgroups/echos without informed discussion and consent of both sides.
The site which is doing so is in gross violation of those guidelines and
has ignored pleas from both sides.

So whaddya do with a net.@hole?
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