[comp.sys.mac.hardware] Memory Questions

wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) (11/18/89)

In article <4129@phri.UUCP> roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) writes:
>In <cZMlnuG00WB404Z0cv@andrew.cmu.edu> kn0j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenneth Blake
>Nerhood) writes:
>
>> do I have to have a dealer install it or can I do it easily?
>
>	I'll only address the technical issues -- there are also problems
>of warranty violations and the like of which I know little.  Plugging in a
>SIMM is pretty trivial -- if you can plug in a PC board, you should be able
>to plug in a SIMM.  You put the edge with the contacts into the socket and
>then gently push it over to one side until the plastic clips engage the
>holes in the SIMM PC board.

  If you decide to install your own SIMMs, PLEASE, PLEASE use proper static
protection.  The circuitry is extremely sensitive to static discharges which
you may never notice until you boot your machine and get a sad mac, and this
applies to the Mac internals as well as the RAM.
   The solution to this problem is either to wear a static bracelet, usually
an elastic bracelet with a metal piece at the wrist, which has a wire which
you connect to the case of the machine so that your wrist is grounded, or to
touch the power supply's metal case with your working hand and hold onto it
with the other hand while you work.
    Sound like a hassle?  It is.  It's the main reason that doing this will
void your warranty.  And this sort of care is what you pay for when you get
a dealer to do it.  If you routinely do this sort of work or you know
someone who does, then go for it.  I just installed 4 megs of RAM
yesterday.  If you feel even a little uncomfortable, then consider that it
might be better to pay someone $50 and be safe rather than lose $500 worth
of memory or $5000 worth of computer.

  -- Mark Wilkins
     wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu

P.S. Followups to comp.sys.mac.hardware

roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) (11/19/89)

In <3122@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> wilkins@jarthur.UUCP (Mark Wilkins) writes,
in response to my instructions for installing SIMMS:
> PLEASE, PLEASE use proper static protection.

	Yes, absolutely.  I meant to mention that in my article but forgot,
so now all I can do is endorse what Mark says.  My rule of thumb about
static protection is "be paranoid".  I use a 3M model 8501 anti-static kit
which has conductive pad to lay the machine or board on, a grounding clip
which you can attach to the chassis frame ground, and a conductive wrist
strap.  Cost me $55 and worth every penny.  You may not be able to justify
something that sophisticated, but use something!
-- 
Roy Smith, Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
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"The connector is the network"

jg13@umd5.umd.edu (Allon Stern) (11/24/89)

In article <3122@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> wilkins@jarthur.UUCP (Mark Wilkins) writes:
>touch the power supply's metal case with your working hand and hold onto it
>with the other hand while you work.

(this to prevent zapping the motherboard/simms with static)

My question is, does the computer have to be plugged in to do this?  It seems
that in order to get a ground it would have to be.

wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) (11/25/89)

I wrote:

>>touch the power supply's metal case with your working hand and hold onto it
>>with the other hand while you work.

In article <5671@umd5.umd.edu> jg13@umd5.umd.edu (Allon Stern) writes:

>My question is, does the computer have to be plugged in to do this?  It seems
>that in order to get a ground it would have to be.

   Sorry, forgot to mention that.  With all static sensitive circuitry it is
necessary to leave the machine off but plugged into a grounded outlet.

-- Mark Wilkins
   wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu

pepke@loligo (Eric Pepke) (11/27/89)

In article <3231@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> wilkins@jarthur.UUCP (Mark Wilkins) writes:
>I wrote:
>
>>>touch the power supply's metal case with your working hand and hold onto it
>>>with the other hand while you work.
>
>In article <5671@umd5.umd.edu> jg13@umd5.umd.edu (Allon Stern) writes:
>
>>My question is, does the computer have to be plugged in to do this?  It seems
>>that in order to get a ground it would have to be.
>
>   Sorry, forgot to mention that.  With all static sensitive circuitry it is
>necessary to leave the machine off but plugged into a grounded outlet.

This is dangerous, especially if you are grounded through a different path.
If the machine is plugged in to the wall, there is always the chance that
you will touch the hot, in which case you may die.

The best way is to ground yourself and the machine to a common ground that
has nothing to do with power.  You can use the grounding hole of an outlet, 
but only if you are absolutely sure that it is a true ground.  There are a lot
of outlets out there with floating grounds or grounds that are just tied to
the neutral.  If you do use a wall ground, be sure to use one of those plugs
where the flat prongs are non-conductive plastic and only the ground prong
conducts.  Also be sure to use a ground strap that contains a resistor for
safety; in theory, it is supposed to lower the current to below what usually 
causes fibrillation in a healthy person.  In practice, those that live the
longest tend to be those who avoid tempting fate and safety mechanisms.

Better than a grounding outlet is a real ground, such as a cold water pipe.
When you are connected to a ground, never go anywhere near anything that 
could be live.  When you want to plug in the Macintosh to test it, first 
disconnect yourself completely from the ground.

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rieman@boulder.Colorado.EDU (John Rieman) (11/29/89)

[a series of articles suggest grounding yourself to various household
objects...]

Like outlets, cold-water pipes are only theoretically safe.  Water utility
folk and plumbers are taught to exercise extreme care with water pipes,
since a faulty appliance can turn the cold-water pipe "hot."  Even if the
pipe is a good ground, wiring yourself to it while you open up a 110V device 
is less than smart -- it's too easy to get caught up in the excitement and
plug the Mac back in, just to see if it's gonna run.  Then when the bomb
appears, you figure you'll just wiggle a board and... PZZZZT!

Anyway, as I understand it, what you want is not (necessarily) an absolute
"ground."  You just want the potential between you and the machine to be
zero.  If you're both floating at 500 V relative to some Platonic ideal
ground, no problem.  

The recommendation I've read, which I've seen VAX, Apple, and various other 
professional computer service people follow, is just this:  Unplug the machine,
snap a grounding strap around your wrist, and clip the lead from the grounding
strap to the machine's chassis.  For board-level work, such as installing 
chips, try to find a metal desk or table, and ground yourself and the equipment
to that.  (Don't wear polyester and don't shuffle your feet -- probably good 
advice in any case.)

- john