[comp.sys.mac.hardware] latest word

jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) (03/06/90)

Hi all:

	I finally decided to buy SIMMS.  I looked at Technology Works and 
Peripheral Outlet - I didn't want to get a money order for Chip Merchant 
(or are they taking credit cards now?)

	Peripheral Outlet had 70 ns SIMMS for $70/each, and 80ns for 
$66/each.  Since I have a Mac+, I don't need 70ns (of course, I don't 
really need 80ns either, but that's all they had).  They would ship via UPS 
ground for $3.50, or UPS 2nd day air for $6.00.  Also, there was a 3% 
surcharge for credit cards.

	Technology Works had 80ns SIMMS for $87.50, and if you buy four of 
them, they'll throw in a copy of FullWrite.  However, the guy I talked to 
said he'd sell them to me for $71 (without FullWrite), since I work at a 
university.  I told him that they were for my personal Mac, not for the 
university, but he said it didn't matter (hmm...).  No credit card 
surcharge was mentioned, and the only shipping they mentioned was UPS 2nd 
day air for $10.00.

	I believe (correct me folks) that TW also includes an installation 
kit with their SIMMS, consisting of, I assume, an anti-static pad, a 
Torx-compatible wrench, and a case cracker.  Had I not already had these 
things, this might have convinced me to go with TW.  I do, though, so it 
didn't.  I should have them by Thursday.

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jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) (03/07/90)

In article <009333AE.E49BAC80@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu>, I wrote:
>	I finally decided to buy SIMMS.  I looked at Technology Works and 
>Peripheral Outlet - I didn't want to get a money order for Chip Merchant 
>(or are they taking credit cards now?)

	Several people have asked for the phone numbers.  Oops, sorry.  I 
forgot to include them:  Technology Works: (800)622-6210; Peripheral 
Outlet: (800)332-6581.

>	I believe (correct me folks) that TW also includes an installation 
>kit with their SIMMS, consisting of, I assume, an anti-static pad, a 
>Torx-compatible wrench, and a case cracker.  Had I not already had these 
>things, this might have convinced me to go with TW.  I do, though, so it 
>didn't.  I should have them by Thursday.

	Well, I've been corrected.  TW's "installation kit" consists of a 
Torx wrench.  No anti-static pad, no case cracker.  In fairness to TW, 
though, they didn't specifically tell me that it came with a kit - I said 
that from memory.  My memory was bad (maybe someone sells chips for that 
too!)

	Now a question for those who have yet to upgrade their memory - is 
anyone interested in hearing about my trials and tribulations of doing it?  
If so, let me know, and I'll post it (after I get the chips, of course...)

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thompson@m.cs.uiuc.edu (03/07/90)

Actually, the Technology Works SIMM Installation Kit consists only
 of a Torx-compatible wrench and a semi-unclear booklet telling you
 what to do.  Well, that's unfair... the booklet is clear, but it's
 pretty skimpy.  You have to be pretty confident and electronically
 worldly to be certain you know what you're doing.

But the FullWrite deal convinced me, as well as the fact that the
 only other place I'd heard of (Chip Merchant) didn't take plastic.
 I've been happy with my TW SIMMs over the past two months, and
 if I ended up paying $10 more for the booklet and TORX wrench, I don't mind,
 considering it saved me mucho hassle.

- Mark Thompson	
  TA in a Strange Land
  University Of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

omh@cs.brown.edu (Owen M. Hartnett) (03/09/90)

You can get a cheap case cracking tool at your local hardware store:
Just buy a small pony clamp for about $2.00 or so and remove the
plastic sleeves on the ends.

To open the case, don't try to do it in one swell squeeze.  Gently pry
around the outer case all around the mac until you feel it give, the
gentler the better so you don't scar the outer case.  Just take your time.

Above tip from Larry Pina's book "Macintosh Repair & UPgrade Secrets"

-Owen

Owen Hartnett				omh@cs.brown.edu.CSNET
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routbort@wystan.bsd.uchicago.edu (Mark Routbort) (03/10/90)

In article <0093347D.B763E500@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu>, jprice@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes:
>	Several people have asked for the phone numbers.  Oops, sorry.  I 
>forgot to include them:  Technology Works: (800)622-6210; Peripheral 
>Outlet: (800)332-6581.                      ^^^^^^^^^^^

If you're going to quote things like phone-numbers ( or prices - you could
easily give someone a heart attack :->), double check them!

The number for Technology Works is 1-800-622-2210.
You made me go and look it up after I got a few do-du-deeps.

>	Well, I've been corrected.  TW's "installation kit" consists of a 
>Torx wrench.  No anti-static pad, no case cracker.  In fairness to TW, 
>though, they didn't specifically tell me that it came with a kit - I said 
>that from memory.  My memory was bad (maybe someone sells chips for that 
>too!)

I was actually told flat out that the SIMMS came with an "installation 
kit." (sic) I did not at the time ask what that included.  If it only
means the wrench, this is definitely on the misleading side.

Mark Routbort                                    I'm /not/ir/dis/unresponsible
routbort@wystan.bsd.uchicago.edu                            U of C vassal.

6600bike@hub.UUCP (Puneet Pasrich) (03/11/90)

From article <009336EF.D61747C0@wystan.bsd.uchicago.edu>, by routbort@wystan.bsd.uchicago.edu (Mark Routbort):
> I was actually told flat out that the SIMMS came with an "installation 
> kit." (sic) I did not at the time ask what that included.  If it only
> means the wrench, this is definitely on the misleading side.

Well, that's actually all you need.  I had to install memory in 14 Mac
SEs and did great using the torx wrench and their manual, plus one of
the Apple technotes on memory banks.  Basically, I used the torx wrench
to pull (unscrew) the four screws from the back of the SE.  Then I used
the side (lenghtwise) of thre torx to pry away the shell.  Worked great!
100% effective.  And, to Technology Works credit, I wanted to be double
sure that my procedure was ok and the tech guy totally helped me out and
walked me straight through an installation.  I did the other 13 in less
than 1/2 hour!
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