kudlacek@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (03/18/90)
I recently saw an ad for a Macintosh kit that cost $500 or something like that... Anyway, I can't find the ad and am interested in any info/experience that anyone has on these kits. Please let me know If I can get a half-decent mac together for cheap! Thanks ----> Kale IN%"Kudlacek@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu"
ira@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Ira Lee) (03/19/90)
I really hope that there won't be any successful mac clones out there publicly. Apple computer should be the only one making macs. Once other companies other than Apple start making roms, then I suspect trouble with the integrity of Macintosh software. --stuff like incompatible roms, the idea of clean code will be destroyed. With more than one standard out there there will be lots of trouble. As for building a mac clone, any roms you will be able to find out there (your kit probably doesn't include roms) will be very old and wont be able to run any of the new software-definately not System 7.0 when it comes out. anyone else agree? bye Ira Lee iradx7@pawl.rpi.edu ira@iear.arts.rpi.edu (518) 276-IRAS (718) 279-4814
ifan572@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Wessels) (03/19/90)
In article <BC?#&S+@rpi.edu> ira@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Ira Lee) writes: > >As for building a mac clone, any roms you will be able to find out >there (your kit probably doesn't include roms) will be very old >and wont be able to run any of the new software-definately not >System 7.0 when it comes out. > >anyone else agree? > >bye >Ira Lee Well, I certainly don't. I do know that 128k ROMs (i.e. Mac Plus ROMs), are available. Everything I've read says that a Mac Plus with 2 meg will run everything in System 7.0 except virtual memory, so a "hackintosh" would also be able to run System 7.0. Your statement is worded as fact, but your "anyone else agree?" suggests it is only opinion. If you don't know, ask. Stating something as fact in hopes that if you're wrong you'll be corrected is a damned annoying way of getting your facts straight.
paryavi@harris.cis.ksu.edu (Saiid Paryavi) (03/19/90)
In article <22521.2602bf21@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> kudlacek@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: > >I recently saw an ad for a Macintosh kit that cost $500 or something >like that... Anyway, I can't find the ad and am interested in >any info/experience that anyone has on these kits. Please let >me know If I can get a half-decent mac together for cheap! The January or February (I am not sure which one) issue of the Computer Shopper had an article about a Macintosh kit. As I remember, the kit included a slim case with power supply, video adaptor, floppy drive, and all the necessary cables, etc. I think the price was around $350. They also sell a 14" monitor for $159 to go with it. I also seem to remember that this kit was only for Mac 128 through Mac 512KE motherboards. If you have a motherboard laying around, this may be a good deal for you, if not, I know of at least one place that sells 128K motherboards for about $50 and Mac Plus motherboards for about $200 - without the ROM and RAM of course. They sell the ROM separately. If you need any more detail, I could probably dig them out and post here. -- Saiid Paryavi CIS Department Internet: paryavi@harris.cis.ksu.edu Nichols Hall, KSU UUCP: {rutgers, texbell}!ksuvax1!harry!paryavi Manhattan, KS 66506
dan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Dan Schwarz) (03/19/90)
In article <2603FFA0.2C1B@deimos.cis.ksu.edu> paryavi@harris.cis.ksu.edu (Saiid Paryavi) writes: >had an article about a Macintosh kit. As I remember, the kit included a >slim case with power supply, video adaptor, floppy drive, and all the necessary >cables, etc. I think the price was around $350. They also sell a 14" monitor >for $159 to go with it. I also seem to remember that this kit was only for >Mac 128 through Mac 512KE motherboards. > >If you need any more detail, I could probably dig them out and post here. >Saiid Paryavi CIS Department >Internet: paryavi@harris.cis.ksu.edu Nichols Hall, KSU Yes, please do post the info here! $350 INCLUDING floppy drive? That's a great deal, considering Apple-branded 800k disk drives retail for $250 or so. And it's pretty easy to get ahold of old motherboards these days. I was thinking of building a Hackintosh to go along with my real SE, but didn't feel like building harnesses and other stuff just so I could hook up the motherboard to an IBM power supply. -- | ...space people think| Dan Schwarz, MB 2926 Brandeis U. | RECYCLE YOUR JUNK| | factories are musical| I'NET dan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu | SUPPORT EARTH DAY| | instruments.Each song|----------------------------------| tradetapes?mailme| | lasts from 8am to 5pm.No music on weekends.- DAVID BYRNE| FloydRushDeadEtc.|
joe@amos.ucsd.edu.ling.ucsd.edu (Joe) (03/19/90)
In article <BC?#&S+@rpi.edu> ira@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Ira Lee) writes: >I really hope that there won't be any successful mac clones out there >publicly. Apple computer should be the only one making macs. Once other >companies other than Apple start making roms, then I suspect trouble >with the integrity of Macintosh software..... > >anyone else agree? I specifically disagree. The reason Apple's prices are so high is not because their manufacturing costs are high; it is because they have no competition. Frankly, if competiting mac-clone manufacturers could not or did not design fully-compatible, high-quality hardware, I don't think anyone would buy their products. Or even if they did, I sure wouldn't. Don't forget that competition also leads to _improvements_ in quality as each manufacturer attempts to beat out the other and sqeeze more product into a tighter case. For less $$. Look at the IBM clone market. You don't find incompatibles there. That's why they call them "compatible." On the side, I seriously hope Apple _loses_ its current lawsuit with Microsoft. Apple has become very arrogant lately, and their prices are begining to soar out of the "personal" market. All because they have no competition. * * "Think, imagine, feel" are words like good and evil; * they mean what you choose them to mean - and nothing more. * If you define them, they fall apart. * * INTERNET: joe@amos.ucsd.edu * BITNET: joe%amos.Bitnet * * Salk Institute for Biological Research, La Jolla, Ca *