blood@aludra.usc.edu (Brian Blood) (05/03/90)
From blood Wed May 2 19:03:59 1990 To: /home/chaph9/blood/.article Ok so what happens to the other drive for us dual floppy SE owners who want to upgrade to an SE/30??? I know I get one drive replaced with a FDHD but what @ my other 800K drive? Pleasse e-mail any responses!!!! +-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/ Brian Blood Univ. of Southern Cal. Underground Mac Dude INTERNET: blood@usc.edu Business Hours: 20/24 daily Disclaimer: 'Vuja De'--None of this has ever happened! SnailMail: 333 Prestonwood DR #2506 AT&TLink: USC--(213)745-2760 Richardson, TX 75081 HomeSweetHome--(214)907-2943 'Pain don't hurt'-'Roadhouse' 'We don't need no stinkin' badges!'-BS +-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/+-*/
Boeheim@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Chuck Boeheim) (05/04/90)
In article <9555@chaph.usc.edu> blood@aludra.usc.edu (Brian Blood) writes: > Ok so what happens to the other drive for us dual floppy SE owners who want to > upgrade to an SE/30??? I know I get one drive replaced with a FDHD but what @ > my other 800K drive? I just had this upgrade done yesterday, though on a one-floppy system so I can't directly answer your question. However, the FDHD upgrade is separate from the SE/30 upgrade, and costs several hundred dollars more, so I didn't spring for it. I got back an SE/30 with a little sticker beside the drive that says "800K". Some places may offer the two upgrades as a package, so check carefully what you're getting for the price. One real shock was about memory. I had put 4 1M SIMMS in my SE before upgrading it. I was told by the salesperson that the SE/30 logic board came with 4 256K SIMMS already on it, so that after the upgrade I would have a total of 5 megabytes after the upgrade. (Because the SE/30 has 8 SIMM slots instead of 4.) I got it back, took it home, and found it only had 4 megabytes installed. So this morning I called the store, and was told by the technician that Apple requires them to return the old SE board to them with 1 megabyte of memory installed for them to get credit for it. So they had swapped the memory from the SE/30 board to the old SE board to fill it up. After rather forcefully stating that they were legally responsible for their salesperson's promises, I got a call from the store manager who told me to just bring in the old 4 256K chips (which I still had, but couldn't use in the SE/30 because they were too slow) to exchange for the 4 new, fast 256K chips. Sounds like it will be a happy ending, but I'll wait until I have the new chips in hand to say that for certain. So be sure of what you're getting when you get this upgrade! If you've upgraded to 4 1M SIMMS, take the old 4 256K SIMMS in with you to trade, or even pop out the 1M SIMMS before the upgrade and put the 256K SIMMS back in and then put the 1Ms back in after the upgrade. If you plan it right, you'll get a free extra megabyte. Chuck Boeheim (415) 926-4640
pv9y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (05/05/90)
In article <9302@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, Boeheim@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Chuck Boeheim) writes: > In article <9555@chaph.usc.edu> blood@aludra.usc.edu (Brian Blood) writes: >> Ok so what happens to the other drive for us dual floppy SE owners who > want to >> upgrade to an SE/30??? I know I get one drive replaced with a FDHD but > what @ >> my other 800K drive? > My girlfriend just had this upgrade done as well - from a 2 floppy SE to a one floppy SE/30. The main problem was that the dealer didn't seem to have ever done one of these before since they never mentioned that the front bezel would be replaced or that there was only one internal floppy connector in the SE/30. When they finally did realize and asked us, we said to still do the upgrade, but made sure they would give us the drive back. They did and we sold it to someone who was building a Mac - though anyone with a single drive Mac II/x/fx machine might want it also. We got $100, which is about half the educational price. Regarding the memory, we heard that the dealers have to send back a normal SE motherboard, so we made sure our motherboard looked exactly like it came with one meg - and added another four meg to the SE/30 within minutes of getting it out of the repair place. We're probably going to get a Kenect Drive 2.4 to add to the system because we miss the second floppy - not terribly - but noticibly. I hate doing master disk backups on a single drive machine. Moral of the story - ask what will happen to all of your extra hardware and memory anonymously before you take your Mac in for upgrade. Then try to bring what the dealer expects to prevent surprises. Adam -- Adam C. Engst pv9y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I ain't worried and I ain't scurried and I'm having a good time" -Paul Simon
stevel@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Steve Ligett) (05/07/90)
In article <9302@lindy.Stanford.EDU> Boeheim@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Chuck Boeheim) writes: >One real shock was about memory. I had put 4 1M SIMMS in my SE before >upgrading it. I was told by the salesperson that the SE/30 logic board >came with 4 256K SIMMS already on it, so that after the upgrade I would >have a total of 5 megabytes after the upgrade. (Because the SE/30 has 8 >SIMM slots instead of 4.) I got it back, took it home, and found it only >had 4 megabytes installed. > >So this morning I called the store, and was told by the technician that >Apple requires them to return the old SE board to them with 1 megabyte of >memory installed for them to get credit for it... ... >Chuck Boeheim >(415) 926-4640 Perhaps your dealer missed the Service Notice disseminated by Apple on 8/15/89 titled "NEW MACINTOSH LOGIC BOARD REPAIR STRATEGY" (The manager of our shop tells me that this applies to upgrades as well) "Apple is introducing a new Macintosh repair strategy to simplify the Service Provider repair process. Effective August 15, all Macintosh Service logic boards are being shipped without RAM Single In-line Memory Modules (SIMMS). Currently, Aple ships Macintosh Service logic boards with four 256K RAM SIMMS installed. However, with the new strategy you no longer need to return logic boards to Apple with RAM SIMMS installed. ... Do not return Macintosh logic boards to Apple with SIMMS installed. Macintosh logic boards returned to Apple with SIMMS installed will be returned to the Service Provider as "misconfigured modules"." Some of that was in boldface, too. On receipt of the notice, our shop stripped all the SIMMS out of boards they had in stock, making a little profit... The bottom of the notice says "Mac Logic Board Repair Strategy 8/15/89 Read & Post" -- steve.ligett@dartmouth.edu or ...!dartvax!steve.ligett