[comp.sys.mac.hardware] Problem initializing Wren V with HDSC-setup

anderson@csli.Stanford.EDU (Steve Anderson) (07/05/90)

I have a 600 (actually 573 or so) Mbyte CDC Wren V (94181-15?) drive
that I bought to use (eventually) with A/UX. I've been using it for a
couple of months as a plain MacOS drive with no problems. Now that I
have my copy of A/UX 2.0, I'd like to get it ready for its intended
use.

When I tried to reformat it with Apples' HDSC-setup, I was unable to
get the drive initialized. I was using a copy of the version (2.01)
that comes on the 6.0.5 disks supplied with A/UX, modified with
ResEdit per several recent messages on the net (i.e., with the byte
preceding each of the supported disk types changes to 0x00).
HDSC-setup finds the disk when it scans the bus, and reports that it
is "uninitialized or its partition map has become invalid." When I
then click to initialize it, it reports that it is formatting the
drive, and runs for about 5-8 minutes (less than half the time other
software takes to format the same drive). It then puts up a dialog box
saying that "The drive could not be initialized.  Unable to Initialize
the disk." Clicking on Continue gets me another dialog box: "Drive
selection failed. Unable to read required information from disk." Upon
return to the main menu, the machine is hung, unable to quit, and the
drive select light on the Wren stays on until I reboot.

When I choose Test at the initial menu instead of Initialize, it runs
a test which takes about 12-15 minutes, and then returns with the
report that the test was successfully completed.

I can still format the disk as a mac disk with other software (APS
Powertools, Jasmine Driveware, Tullin Format, or - I imagine, if they
ever ship it - the copy of MacTools Deluxe that I ordered back in
February. But I gather I need to use Apple's HDSC-setup in order to
get it partitioned for A/UX - unless, that is, I want to buy yet
another disk utility program, LaCie's Silver Lining.

Can anyone suggest something I can do to get HDSC-setup to initialize
and partition this drive (I might mention that the same copy of
HDSC-setup worked fine to reinitialize and format the internal 80
Mbyte Quantum in my IIci)? And if not, is there anyone willing to lend
me a copy of Silver Lining just long enough to get this one disk set
up? I'm in Baltimore, so if someone at JHU or UMCP could lend me a
disk that would be nice - or if I were to receive a binhexed copy in
the mail I promise I'll destroy it after using it just this once....

A general remark about the A/UX 2.0 documentation: Although it does
seem in places to be aimed at an awfully low level of user (see the
detailed information about how to open files by clicking on icons,
etc., repeated many times in many places), it seems to be useful and
informative even for those for a fair amount of general UNIX
experience. But as far as hardware is concerned, it provides
absolutely no information at all about how to use anything Apple
doesn't sell. Just "If you bought a third party widget, see the
documentation from the manufacturer." Of course, the third party
manufacturer knew little if anything about A/UX 2.0, and has no
relevant documentation. I'm not asking Apple to support other people's
products per se, but I'm sure they know a few things about how to
install them, and a few hints in the documentation could be very
useful.

Steve Anderson
Cognitive Science Center
The Johns Hopkins University

anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu
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anderson@csli.stanford.edu