ericz@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Eric Zamost) (07/20/90)
I am planning to purchase some CDC-Imprimis Wren-IV SCSI
drives, and I think the price I am arranging may be of interest
to other net-readers. It looks as if I can get this drive for
somewhere between $900 and $1000, depending on the quantity
purchased. If you think you may want one, please e-mail me and
indicate approximately how interested you are, and I will see
what kind of price I can get (but understand that this is still
a bit tentative).
Following are the specifications for the drives:
CDC-Imprimis Wren-IV (94171-307)
New, 1 year warranty
SCSI interface
320 Meg (formatted) capacity
16ms average access time
Full Height, 5.25", Auto-park
Rated MTBF: 100,000
I asked a few weeks ago about how this drive compared to the
Miniscribe 9380S's which have recently become available
inexpensively, and the consensus was that this was by far the more
reliable drive.
My plan is to arrange the purchase, but then have people buy them
directly from the dealer. How well has this method worked
before?
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---------------------------------------------------------------------Duel@cup.portal.com (Omid M Farr) (07/21/90)
I tried to get involved in a few "deals" like this but they dont seem to work most people are "interested" and not many serious buyers. But the prices you quote are pretty good, but I was able to pick up a CDC/Seagate 209 meg unformatted for $549. I got it from NCA Peripherals. (408-970-0286, 800-321-4003). I was lucky to get it reserved for a few days because during that time 5-6 people called for it. They also have 380meg hard drive 16ms for $799. They seemed to be a good deal also, but unlike the cdc are full height. (I probably would have picked one up if I had the extra money, though!) I havent had a chance to use the drive yet but it seems to be new (other than their 'test format', but you dont get the manuals or an attractive package with it..) I guess they got them for dirt cheap because the manufacturers dont give them anything but the drive. Instead, I got a copy of the OEM manual which is very technical. I would recommend them to anyone, great prices and the service was good also, just dont expect some great support from them.
gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (07/22/90)
How on earth can you take advantage of a 210 or 300 Mb macintosh
drive? I have trouble keeping my Mac II's 80Mb more than half full.
Many of the sectors have probably never been gaussed.
? make spurious copies of you CD-Roms ?
Don W. Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois
1304 W. Springfield, Urbana, Ill 61801
ARPA: gillies@cs.uiuc.edu UUCP: {uunet,harvard}!uiucdcs!gillieswgstuken@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Wolfgang Stukenbrock ) (07/22/90)
gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes: >How on earth can you take advantage of a 210 or 300 Mb macintosh >drive? I have trouble keeping my Mac II's 80Mb more than half full. >Many of the sectors have probably never been gaussed. >? make spurious copies of you CD-Roms ? There may be people, that use more than one program in their live! If you try to develop software, you will see, that about 200Meg's source is nothing!! Wolfgang wgstuken@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
derek@leah.Albany.Edu (Derek L. / MacLover) (07/23/90)
From gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu come these immortal words: >How on earth can you take advantage of a 210 or 300 Mb macintosh >drive? I have trouble keeping my Mac II's 80Mb more than half full. >Many of the sectors have probably never been gaussed. I can only assume, sir, that you don't do any image processing, design, layout, sound manipulation, programming, presentations, or use a lot of utilities or PD/Shareware. I envy you... >Don W. Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois Derek L. -- + + One Mac is worth exactly 2.317 PCs (based on current price indices) + + Disclaimer: I was asleep. ---}=-------------------------` ++ All the busy little creatures / Chasing out their destinies --Peart ++
jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) (07/23/90)
In article <77800019@m.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes: > >How on earth can you take advantage of a 210 or 300 Mb macintosh >drive? I have trouble keeping my Mac II's 80Mb more than half full. >Many of the sectors have probably never been gaussed. > Under the MacOS, I have a 80 meg drive is NEVER exceeds about 1/2 full... however I am also running A/UX which is a totally different story: 1 175MB Imprimis Drive 1 84MB Quantum 1 60MB Seagate Drive 1 40MB Syquest Drive And I'm busting at the seams!! Geez! -- ======================================================================= #include <std/disclaimer.h> =:^) Jim Jagielski NASA/GSFC, Code 711.1 jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov Greenbelt, MD 20771 "Kilimanjaro is a pretty tricky climb. Most of it's up, until you reach the very, very top, and then it tends to slope away rather sharply."
demarsee@gamera.cns.syr.edu (Darryl Marsee) (07/23/90)
In article <77800019@m.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes: > How on earth can you take advantage of a 210 or 300 Mb macintosh > drive? I have trouble keeping my Mac II's 80Mb more than half full. > Many of the sectors have probably never been gaussed. Run A/UX. If there's ever a disk hog in the world, it's Unix. I've got 240MB of disk, a CD-ROM, and a Sun NFS mounted, and STILL I could use another couple of hundred Meg or so of space (anybody generous soul want to donate some I can NFS mount? :-) Darryl Marsee Syracuse University <demarsee@gamera.cns.syr.edu>
max@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Max Tardiveau) (07/24/90)
gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes: >How on earth can you take advantage of a 210 or 300 Mb macintosh >drive? I have trouble keeping my Mac II's 80Mb more than half full. >Many of the sectors have probably never been gaussed. >? make spurious copies of you CD-Roms ? Give me a 1 gig drive, and I'll fill it in no time. Seriously. Max -------------------------------------------------------------------- Claimer : I speak for the entire planet. Anyone who disagrees is out of this world. UUCP: {amdahl!bungia, uunet!rosevax, crash}!orbit!pnet51!max ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!max@nosc.mil INET: max@pnet51.orb.mn.org
bmwu@athena.mit.edu (Benson M. Wu) (07/24/90)
Several days ago Duel@cup.portal.com (Omid M Farr) posted a message stating that he was able to >> pick a CDC/Seagate 209 meg HD for $549. I got it from NCA >> Peripherals, (408-970-0286, 800-321-4003(CA only)) ... They also have >> a 380meg HD 116 ms for $799.... Well, I called up the company (National Computer Arts) today. They are out of the 380 Meg HD's and new ones won't arrive for another 2 weeks. Although they don't have a toll free number for out of staters, the telephone receptionist was very courteous, took my name down, and promised to call me when the HD arrives. I am interested only in external HD's. Here are the brands and prices: Manufacturer Size Access Time Price Micropolis 300Meg 18 ms $1099 Miniscribe 300Meg 16 ms $999 I have no experience with either of these drives or the manufacturers. I would appreciate any opinion from people who either have these drives or have experiences with these companies ( good or bad). I don't regularly read comp.periphs.scsi so please e-mail me at bmwu@athena.mit.edu. If you read this in Comp.sys.mac.hardware, feel free to post your opinion to the bulletin directly since I follow it fairly regularly. Thanks.
rc3h+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ross Ward Comer) (07/24/90)
Duel@cup.portal.com (Omid M Farr) writes: > ... are pretty good, but I was able to pick up a CDC/Seagate 209 meg > unformatted for $549. I got it from NCA Peripherals. (408-970-0286, > 800-321-4003). ... Ok, but will this work in my SE/30? In other words, what do I have to do to get this to work, besides taking out my current 40M drive and inserting this drive? And if it's complicated (ie requires extra hardware, rewiring, etc), is there a (relatively) cheap drive that's plug 'n play? Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Comer | ARPA: rc3h@andrew.cmu.edu PO Box 262, CMU | Bitnet: rc3h@andrew.cmu.edu Pittsburgh, Pa. 15213 | UUCP: ...!harvard!andrew.cmu.edu!rc3h ------------------------------------------------------------------------
wiseman@tellabs.com (Jeff Wiseman) (07/25/90)
In article <77800019@m.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes: > >How on earth can you take advantage of a 210 or 300 Mb macintosh >drive? I have trouble keeping my Mac II's 80Mb more than half full. >Many of the sectors have probably never been gaussed. > Would you be interested in downgrading to a 20M miniscribe (a la APPLE) and a little (I stress the word little 'cuz that's all I got) $$$ for your 80M? My philosophy was never "When in doubt, throw it out!", it was more "Keep it in case" and "If you keep it, make sure you can get at it quickly!" :-) :-) PS I would not have any problem filling your 80M, and THAT's just with applications. I haven't even got ahold of a compiler yet! then I'll have files all over the place! Such is the delema of a Mac-man. -- Jeff Wiseman: ....uunet!tellab5!wiseman OR wiseman@TELLABS.COM
urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs) (07/26/90)
In comp.periphs.scsi, article <4af5L4e00WB9I8nv1H@andrew.cmu.edu>, rc3h+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ross Ward Comer) writes: < Duel@cup.portal.com (Omid M Farr) writes: < > ... are pretty good, but I was able to pick up a CDC/Seagate 209 meg < > unformatted for $549. I got it from NCA Peripherals. (408-970-0286, < > 800-321-4003). ... < < Ok, but will this work in my SE/30? In other words, what do I have to < do to get this to work, besides taking out my current 40M drive and < inserting this drive? And if it's complicated (ie requires extra < hardware, rewiring, etc), is there a (relatively) cheap drive that's < plug 'n play? < It's mostly plug-and-play, except that you have to format the beast, install a partition table and a suitable driver. Two ways to do this: (a) browbeat the Apple driver into accepting that drive (non-trivial because it's not always a clean decision which of the hardwired product IDs to replace) or (b) buy SilverLining; it's very good and can do some neat tricks, including password protection, multiple volumes on the drive, resizing partitions (with _data_ on them...), speed testing, a real thorough find-and-map-out-bad-sectors tester, and lots more... -- Matthias Urlichs -- urlichs@smurf.sub.org -- urlichs@smurf.ira.uka.de Humboldtstrasse 7 - 7500 Karlsruhe 1 - FRG -- +49+721+621127(Voice)/621227(PEP)