[comp.sys.mac.hardware] Reformatted HD Disks

kriss@AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM (R M Kriss) (09/22/90)

Learn something new about Macs everyday. A friend mailed me a disk formatted
for 1.4M. My Mac Plus could not read the disk, so I reformatted it to 800K and
sent it back to him. His Mac with the HD drive could not read the disk. He
sent it back to me and it worked great. 

I think the problem is with the HD drive. They can read 400k or 800K disks
formatted on a nonHD drive but cannot read a HD disk reformatted on a nonHD
drive.   Heads-up reformatting HD disks.

I am planning to buy an SE/30 soon. Maybe I can get around the reformatting
problem by using my old 800K Apple external drive. Can a SE/30 read a 800K
reformatted HD disk on the external drive? Will the old external drive even
work on an SE/30?

Dick


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dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) (09/22/90)

In article <369@shrike.AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM> kriss@AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM (R M Kriss) writes:
>I think the problem is with the HD drive. They can read 400k or 800K disks
>formatted on a nonHD drive but cannot read a HD disk reformatted on a nonHD
>drive.   Heads-up reformatting HD disks.

The solution is simple--place a piece of tape over the HD indicator hole
on the HD floppy which was formatted to 800K when inserting it in the
SuperDrive.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
dyer@arktouros.mit.edu, dyer@hstbme.mit.edu

c60b-4ah@e260-2b.berkeley.edu (Phantom) (09/24/90)

If you stick a opaque tape on you High Density disk so that the hole that 
distinguishes it form a 800k disk is covered, it will probably work on a
FDHD (for a short while).  

That hole is used by FDHD to identify the density the disk in it.  
It is a useful feature not only because it enables you to format a disk 
without having to tell the computer the density of the disk every time, 
which is something you have to do on a PS/2, but also because it prevents 
people from accidentaly format a DD disk in HD format or the other way 
around.  Because the surface coating of HD and DD disks have quite different 
physical properties, one should refrain from cross-formating them.  Time and 
chance are all it takes your data to vanish if you insist on doing so.

Garance_Drosehn@mts.rpi.edu (Garance Drosehn) (09/25/90)

In article <369@shrike.AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM> 
        kriss@AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM (R M Kriss) writes:
   ...some stuff deleted...
> I am planning to buy an SE/30 soon. Maybe I can get around the 
> reformatting problem by using my
> old 800K Apple external drive. Can a SE/30 read a 800K reformatted
> HD disk on the external drive? Will the old external drive even
> work on an SE/30?

Your old 800K external drive will work on the SE/30.  On the other hand, 
I'm about to get rid of the 800K drive on my SE, because disks can get 
screwed up if you put an HD disk (formatted as an HD disk) into that 800K 
drive.  The 800K drive has no idea about HD disks, so it thinks the disk 
is not initialized.  If your software auto-formats uninitialized disks (as
I have DiskFit setup to do), the disk is zapped before you know it.

In my opinion, the moral of the story is to use 800K disks for 800K 
formats, and HD disks in HD formats.  If you have an SE/30, there's no 
good reason to format HD disks as 800K disks.

Garance_Drosehn@mts.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY.  USA