epayne@x102a.ess.harris.com (payne edward 01471) (10/10/90)
Judging by what I've been reading here lately, I may be in for a surprize. I ordered an SE30 without a hard drive thinking that I would install a better one (big mistake). They informed me that I would have to wait 8 weeks for it. I talked them into letting me pay for it after 4 weeks. The total came to $2168 for SE30, Ext keyboard, tax, and shipping. Now, I'm nervous with all these new macs coming out and one post saying that the IIsi will replace the SE30. I don't know if I'm past the point of no return yet. Surely Apple wouldn't abandon the top of the line "Toaster Mac" or is the SE30 toast. Does anyone have any calm, reassuring words for me, or do I sit back and accept what happens. Thanks!, (from an SE owner who recently sold it to buy an SE30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ed Payne | USMail: Ed Payne Harris Corp. GASD | 3365 Wedgewood Dr. #304 Melbourne, Fl. | Palm Bay, Fl. ...epayne@x102a.ess.harris.com | 32905 ...uunet!x102a!epayne | ******************************************************************************* Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! -Monty Python's Michael Palin It makes all the difference whether one sees darkness through the light or brightness through the shadows. -David Lindsay ********************************************************************************
jimb@silvlis.com (Jim Budler) (10/11/90)
In article <4461@trantor.harris-atd.com> epayne@x102a.ess.harris.com (payne edward 01471) writes: > > Judging by what I've been reading here lately, I may be in for a >surprize. I ordered an SE30 without a hard drive thinking that I would >install a better one (big mistake). They informed me that I would have to wait >8 weeks for it. [...] > I don't know if I'm past the point of no return yet. Surely Apple >wouldn't abandon the top of the line "Toaster Mac" or is the SE30 toast. >Does anyone have any calm, reassuring words for me, or do I sit back and accept >what happens. I was in at a dealer last Friday. Some of this came up. He said production of the SE/30 and the IIci was halted until January, so the chipsets could be used in the new products. I was in 4 dealers total. Inventory of the SE/30 and IIci was little or none. jim -- Jim Budler jimb@silvlis.com +1.408.991.6115 Silvar-Lisco, Inc. 703 E. Evelyn Ave. Sunnyvale, Ca. 94086
The.Shredder......@f31.n343.z1.FIDONET.ORG (The Shredder......) (10/15/90)
Hi Ed, I just bought an SE/30 too, almost sold it... These rumors about the IISI replacing the SE/30 seem to be quite humorous to me. Seeing that a IISI with a color monitor is going to cost you over $4,000. If you're worried about it happening, cancel or sell your SE/30 and fork out the extra $2,000 for a IISI. I wouldn't do it personally. Heck, the LC doesn't even come with PMU or a math co-processor, so forget about virtual memory with it. I was considering it because of the color, but it would be a drop in computer horsepower. Ed, I'm going to stick with my SE/30. In my opinion it is the most affordable mac that offers a lot of quality and performance. Heck, Apple may even come up with upgrades for those who have 030's to go to 20 mhz or something, I dunno. I am hoping color monitors will drop in price!!!!! Arrrgh... :) -- The Shredder...... via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!343!31!The.Shredder...... INET: The.Shredder......@f31.n343.z1.FIDONET.ORG
ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith) (10/20/90)
Even if Apple drops the SE/30, those who just bought one are not really screwed. First of all, the SE/30 looks pretty much like a Mac II to software. So you are not going to suddenly stop being able to by software. You will be able to by software for it as long as those with the newer machines are able to get software. Secondly, there are enough of them suckers out there that people will keep selling cards for it, so you don't have to worry about that. You will still be able to get video cards and network cards and stuff like that. You will probably even still see new cards for it. It is easier to design a card for it than for the NuBus machines, so there is no reason for a card maker not to do an SE/30 card if they are also doing a card for a NuBus Mac. And if they are doing a card for a NuBus Mac, then they are doing SE/30 software, because the SE/30 ROM makes the SE/30 slot look like a NuBus to card driver software. Apple did very good with that. Too good, in fact. When the SE/30 came out, I kept expecting Dove to send me one, since I wrote their NuBus ethernet drivers, and I knew they were doing a card for the SE/30. They never did send me one, because the drivers for their NuBus card worked with absolutely no change with their SE/30 card, so it turns out I had already done the SE/30 software without ever having gotten an SE/30. :-( I knew I should have put an explicit check for machine type in there.... :-) In summary, even if they drop the SE/30, you are really no worse off then those of us who have Mac II's (the ones without all the extra letters). In fact, it was rather nice when they got rid of the II. A few months after they announced the demise of the IIo, they offered a special deal to developers in order to get rid of the last few II's. The deal was something like a Mac II, 4 meg, 40 meg hard disk for around $2300 or something like that. If only they would drop the IIfx soon! :-) Tim Smith
wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) (10/21/90)
In article <35055@cup.portal.com> ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith) writes: >Secondly, there are enough of them suckers [ SE/30s ] out there that people >will keep selling cards for it, so you don't have to worry about >that. You will still be able to get video cards and network >cards and stuff like that. Also, remember that the IIsi can be configured with a NuBus or SE/30-compatible slot. Thus, there will be a market even if all the owners of the SE/30 suffer a mass delusion and sell out for the new NeXT machines. << Time to duck >> :-) -- Mark Wilkins -- ******* "Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitude!" ********** *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Mark R. Wilkins wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu {uunet}!jarthur!wilkins * ****** MARK.WILKINS on AppleLink ****** MWilkins on America Online ******