AGO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (11/09/90)
I was considering buying a IIci and equip it with a video card
for a 19" monitor and an Ethernet card (that's 2 NuBus slots). Now,
someone warned me that this will cause trouble for the following
reason:
Apparently, a majority of software packages get into trouble and
crash due to the fact that they don't handle the management of the
additional cards (except for the video card) correctly. As we don't
have any IIci with 2 expansion cards here, I can't verify this directly.
It sounds to me like software vendors would take care of such a problem
pretty rapidly...
Does this sound familiar to anybody? Right? Wrong? Comments would be
greatly appreciated! It's easier to find out this way than after
getting the Mac out of the box...
Romain 'Ago' Agostini
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Stanford University, California
ago@slacvm.slac.stanford.eduepan@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Eric C. Pan) (11/09/90)
I don't believe that [ ci having problem with more than 1 nuBus card ] is true. Granted, I only have a Supermac ColorCard/24 with Accelerator, so I can't verify it. The only reasons I can think of is 1) Power Supply 2) ci's use of PMMU in mapping its internal video card
lemke@radius.com (Steve Lemke) (11/09/90)
AGO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes: } I was considering buying a IIci and equip it with a video card }for a 19" monitor and an Ethernet card (that's 2 NuBus slots). Now, }someone warned me that this will cause trouble for the following }reason: } } Apparently, a majority of software packages get into trouble and }crash due to the fact that they don't handle the management of the }additional cards (except for the video card) correctly. As we don't }have any IIci with 2 expansion cards here, I can't verify this directly. Hmmm. The IIci I used for several weeks last month had a video board and an ethernet board in it. I would say that that person is mis-informed. }It sounds to me like software vendors would take care of such a problem }pretty rapidly... You bet they would. Anyway, you should be able to put just about any board in the system. Unless some software you're running is specifically looking for that board, it should do absolutely _nothing_ to the system operation. -- ----- Steve Lemke, Engineering Quality Assurance, Radius Inc., San Jose ----- ----- Reply to: lemke@radius.com (Note: NEW domain-style address!!) -----
bmug@garnet.berkeley.edu (BMUG) (11/09/90)
In article <90312.094155AGO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> AGO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes: > > I was considering buying a IIci and equip it with a video card >for a 19" monitor and an Ethernet card (that's 2 NuBus slots). Now, >someone warned me that this will cause trouble for the following >reason: > > Apparently, a majority of software packages get into trouble and >crash due to the fact that they don't handle the management of the >additional cards (except for the video card) correctly. > I haven't heard of this problem with any major software packages, though theoretically I suppose it could happen. Software doesn't really "manage" Nubus cards, in general; that's up to the System software and firmware. One problem that *can* occur, however, is if you're using cards which exceed the wattage specs of the IIci (or IIcx); although Apple issued guidelines for card manufacturers long ago, many (particularly high-bit- depth video cards, *including Apple's 8/24GC*, apparently) draw more than they're supposed to, which can shut down the bus and prevent the machine from powering up (I experienced this myself with a Radius card combo). I'd say try before you buy... John Heckendorn /\ BMUG ARPA: bmug@garnet.berkeley.EDU A__A 1442A Walnut St., #62 BITNET: bmug@ucbgarne |()| Berkeley, CA 94709 Phone: (415) 549-2684 | |
paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Paul T Russell) (11/13/90)
From article <90312.094155AGO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, by AGO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU: > > I was considering buying a IIci and equip it with a video card > for a 19" monitor and an Ethernet card (that's 2 NuBus slots). Now, > someone warned me that this will cause trouble for the following > reason: Sounds like a good candidate for alt.folklore.urban. ;-) I've been running a IIci with all three slots filled (Ethernet, AudioMedia, Parallel I/O board), with several hundred INIT's (well, maybe 10 or so), for months, and have had no real problems. //Paul -- Paul Russell, Department of Experimental Psychology University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton BN1 9QG, England Janet: paulr@uk.ac.sussex.syma Nsfnet: paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk Bitnet: paulr%sussex.syma@ukacrl.bitnet Usenet: ...ukc!syma!paulr