stovsky@giza.cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Stovsky) (11/16/90)
Hello netters! I have a three or so month old Deskwriter & have anxiously awaited HP's release of the non-smear ink. I recently saw a store's Deskwriter that had a "new" ink cartridge & printed out a couple of pages on it. To me, the printouts looked fuzzier & had more "spider legs" than the output I get from my printer. I even brought a couple of sheets of paper along, so I would be sure to be using the same stuff. My question is: Does the new ink result in poorer quality output, or are my observations incorrect or the result of viewing output from a potentially abused machine that is beyond its prime? Thanks in advance! Still using the smeary stuff... Mike (stovsky@cis.ohio-state.edu)
robertt@hp-vcd.HP.COM (Bob Taylor) (11/17/90)
The new ink usually provides better PQ than the old, but there are a few papers on which the new ink is worse (in the study I saw, about 2/3 of the papers tested got better, with only a couple that got worse). Unfortunately, most dealers use really lousy paper for their demos. Some quick reccomendations (these are what I use) - Gilbert Bond for good stuff, Xerox 4024 for everyday use. On both of these, the new ink is better than the old. bob taylor HP Vancouver
jack@Taffy.rice.edu (Jack W. Howarth) (11/18/90)
In article <1170006@hp-vcd.HP.COM> robertt@hp-vcd.HP.COM (Bob Taylor) writes: >The new ink usually provides better PQ than the old, but there are a few >papers on which the new ink is worse (in the study I saw, about 2/3 of the >papers tested got better, with only a couple that got worse). Unfortunately, >most dealers use really lousy paper for their demos. Some quick reccomendations (these are what I use) - Gilbert Bond for good stuff, Xerox 4024 for >everyday use. On both of these, the new ink is better than the old. > >bob taylor >HP Vancouver Bob, What exactly are the best papers to use with the new ink. I really wish HP would send out a newsletter covering this issue, because alot of us don't have the time or money to go out and test hundreds of papers. It would be very nice to have a top ten list of papers to refer to. Cheers... Jack
robertt@hp-vcd.HP.COM (Bob Taylor) (11/20/90)
Since I've gotten a couple of requests, here is a quick "reccomendation" of
papers that's been cirulated around here. No guarantees - I personally
haven't tried most of these, but this is what our ink people have told us
to reccomend:
In the US:
Bond: Gilbert Bond Gilbert Paper
Neenah Classic Laid Neenah Paper
Copier: Xerox 4024 Xerox
Champion Datacopy Champion International
Chief Xerographic Mead
Yorktown Xerographic Union Camp
In Europe:
Bond Conqueror Wiggins Teape
Magnor Maresquel Iridium
Clairefontaine:Clairalfa Clairfontaine
Copier Rank Xerox 80 Xerox
Reymat Aussedat Rey
Reylux Aussedat Rey
Multicopy Nymolla
These are just some that theoretically work well with the new inks - it
doesn't imply anything about any papers that aren't on this list. A lot
of stores that sell paper may let you take a sheet or two to try - if there
is a paper that you want to use that isn't on this list, the best thing to
do is try to find a sample and try it.
hope this helps -
bob taylor