long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) (12/28/90)
I have a Cutting Edge external 800K floppy that I've migrated to my IIci. It
works sporadically at best. If I try to boot off it, I occasionally get a Sad
Mac, with some hex error code. Other times, the disk just ejects, or it boots
OK. Inserting a disk after boot sometimes brings up the "disk is damaged;
repair it?" dialog, and other times it mounts fine. Parenthetically, the
disks always work in the internal Superdrive.
So, the question: should this work, or should I pop for an external
Superdrive? Who's to blame? Cutting Edge? Apple? gremlins? The problems seem
to vary with the distance I move the floppy away from the monitor (Applecolor
13"),but there's a limit to how far it can go.
Thanks, as always.
Richard C. Long * long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
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* long%mcntsh.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com Rich.Long@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Rich Long) (12/28/90)
Reply-To: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
I have a Cutting Edge external 800K floppy that I've migrated to my IIci. It
works sporadically at best. If I try to boot off it, I occasionally get a Sad
Mac, with some hex error code. Other times, the disk just ejects, or it boots
OK. Inserting a disk after boot sometimes brings up the "disk is damaged;
repair it?" dialog, and other times it mounts fine. Parenthetically, the
disks always work in the internal Superdrive.
So, the question: should this work, or should I pop for an external
Superdrive? Who's to blame? Cutting Edge? Apple? gremlins? The problems seem
to vary with the distance I move the floppy away from the monitor (Applecolor
13"),but there's a limit to how far it can go.
Thanks, as always.
Richard C. Long * long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
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INTERNET: Rich.Long@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORGomalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (12/29/90)
In article <18504@shlump.nac.dec.com> long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes: > I have a Cutting Edge external 800K floppy that I've migrated to my IIci. It > works sporadically at best. > > So, the question: should this work, or should I pop for an external > Superdrive? Who's to blame? Cutting Edge? Apple? gremlins? Cutting Edge or gremlins, but not Apple this time. A couple of years ago I had a Photon external 800K floppy drive. Bought it to use with a Mac 512K originally, and later ended up using it with a Mac Plus. At some point in time I connected the drive to an SE/30. Didn't work. But a standard Apple external 800K drive did work, so I assumed that the third-party floppy drive had ROMs incompatible with '030 CPUs or something. It used to be that a lot of companies slapped their name on an external floppy drive mechanism made by one particular manufacturer, much the same way that third-party hard drives are sold today. Perhaps that's the case for Rich's Cutting Edge drive, and he's got one of those older, incompatible drives. By the way, my IIcx has an internal SuperDrive and an external Apple 800K drive. Works just fine. The same configuration should work fine on a IIci, at least if the external drive is Apple's. -John --- John O'Malley / Macintosh / Purdue University / (317) omalley@cc.purdue.edu / Specialist / Computing Center / 494-1787
arie@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru) (12/29/90)
In article <18504@shlump.nac.dec.com> long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes: > > I have a Cutting Edge external 800K floppy that I've migrated to my IIci. It > works sporadically at best. If I try to boot off it, I occasionally get a Sad > Mac, with some hex error code. Other times, the disk just ejects, or it boots > OK. Inserting a disk after boot sometimes brings up the "disk is damaged; > repair it?" dialog, and other times it mounts fine. Parenthetically, the > disks always work in the internal Superdrive. > > So, the question: should this work, or should I pop for an external > Superdrive? Who's to blame? Cutting Edge? Apple? gremlins? The problems seem I have an Apple external 800K floppy drive that I've migrated to my IIci and it works flawlessly. I would try it on another Mac to make sure it is not a hardware problem with the external 800K floppy drive. -- ============================================================================= Arie Covrigaru | Internet: arie@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan AI Lab | 1101 Beal Ave., Ann Arbor, MI 48109 =============================================================================
John.OMalley@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John OMalley) (12/29/90)
Reply-To: omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu In article <18504@shlump.nac.dec.com> long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes: > I have a Cutting Edge external 800K floppy that I've migrated to my IIci. It > works sporadically at best. > > So, the question: should this work, or should I pop for an external > Superdrive? Who's to blame? Cutting Edge? Apple? gremlins? Cutting Edge or gremlins, but not Apple this time. A couple of years ago I had a Photon external 800K floppy drive. Bought it to use with a Mac 512K originally, and later ended up using it with a Mac Plus. At some point in time I connected the drive to an SE/30. Didn't work. But a standard Apple external 800K drive did work, so I assumed that the third-party floppy drive had ROMs incompatible with '030 CPUs or something. It used to be that a lot of companies slapped their name on an external floppy drive mechanism made by one particular manufacturer, much the same way that third-party hard drives are sold today. Perhaps that's the case for Rich's Cutting Edge drive, and he's got one of those older, incompatible drives. By the way, my IIcx has an internal SuperDrive and an external Apple 800K drive. Works just fine. The same configuration should work fine on a IIci, at least if the external drive is Apple's. -John John O'Malley / Macintosh / Purdue University / (317) omalley@cc.purdue.edu / Specialist / Computing Center / 494-1787 + Organization: Purdue University Computing Center -- John OMalley - via FidoNet node 1:105/14 UUCP: ...!{uunet!glacier, ..reed.bitnet}!busker!226!20!John.OMalley INTERNET: John.OMalley@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Arie.Covrigaru@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Arie Covrigaru) (12/29/90)
Reply-To: arie@dip.eecs.umich.edu In article <18504@shlump.nac.dec.com> long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes: > > I have a Cutting Edge external 800K floppy that I've migrated to my IIci. It > works sporadically at best. If I try to boot off it, I occasionally get a Sad > Mac, with some hex error code. Other times, the disk just ejects, or it boots > OK. Inserting a disk after boot sometimes brings up the "disk is damaged; > repair it?" dialog, and other times it mounts fine. Parenthetically, the > disks always work in the internal Superdrive. > > So, the question: should this work, or should I pop for an external > Superdrive? Who's to blame? Cutting Edge? Apple? gremlins? The problems seem I have an Apple external 800K floppy drive that I've migrated to my IIci and it works flawlessly. I would try it on another Mac to make sure it is not a hardware problem with the external 800K floppy drive. -- ============================================================================= Arie Covrigaru I Internet: arie@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan AI Lab I 1101 Beal Ave., Ann Arbor, MI 48109 ============================================================================= + Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. -- Arie Covrigaru - via FidoNet node 1:105/14 UUCP: ...!{uunet!glacier, ..reed.bitnet}!busker!226!20!Arie.Covrigaru INTERNET: Arie.Covrigaru@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) (12/30/90)
In article <18504@shlump.nac.dec.com>, I write: > > I have a Cutting Edge external 800K floppy that I've migrated to my IIci. It > works sporadically at best. I get to followup myself! If I turn off the 68030's instruction cache, all is well! Go figure! I had heard that formatting disks might be a problem on 68030 *upgraded* machines, but I didn't think the IIci would suffer from it. Besides, I have problems with general floppy access on the external, not just during format. Richard C. Long * long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com * ...!decwrl!mcntsh.enet.dec.com!long * long%mcntsh.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com
Rich.Long@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Rich Long) (12/30/90)
Reply-To: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com In article <18504@shlump.nac.dec.com>, I write: > > I have a Cutting Edge external 800K floppy that I've migrated to my IIci. It > works sporadically at best. I get to followup myself! If I turn off the 68030's instruction cache, all is well! Go figure! I had heard that formatting disks might be a problem on 68030 *upgraded* machines, but I didn't think the IIci would suffer from it. Besides, I have problems with general floppy access on the external, not just during format. Richard C. Long * long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com * ...!decwrl!mcntsh.enet.dec.com!long * long%mcntsh.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com + Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Rich Long - via FidoNet node 1:105/14 UUCP: ...!{uunet!glacier, ..reed.bitnet}!busker!226!20!Rich.Long INTERNET: Rich.Long@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG