dave@qtlon.UUCP (Dave Lukes) (06/12/84)
<FFFLLLAAAMMMEEE OOONNNNNNNNN !!!!!!!!!!> 1) None of you AT&T abusers actually seem to have any FACTS (remember them ? :-) to go on (please correct me if I'm wrong). The best I've heard so far is something to the effect that ``We got a demo and not all the stuff was there and the salesman didn't seem to know what he was talking about''. Can we all please remember the famous piece of advice: Engage brain before putting mouth in gear. Also: how much of this stuff is pure bigotry (whether commercially or otherwise inspired ??). 2) I don't know what the situation on 3B2 UN*X is, so I don't know how much of UN*X you don't get with it (i.e. is it just the SGS missing, or have they unbundled cat as well ? :-). 3) All this business about ``I need a C compiler/lex/yacc/franzlisp'' is all PERSONAL (REAL UN*X hacks don't need cc, they use the shell and a few handfuls of tools :-). 4) Like it or not most people using 3B2s probably WON'T need the C compiler (but probably unfortunately WILL need NROFF/DITROFF which aren't included). 5) The business about needing to recompile netnews is spurious: MOST people buy software from distributors in binary form. (Please remember that most of the world DOESN'T Have a UN*X source license and isn't interested in one.) 6) Philosophically, yes I agree that it is nasty to unbundle UN*X, but there again, lotsa good UN*X software doesn't actually come from AT&T. (Is it a UN*X system if it doesn't have netnews ??.) FFFLLLAAAMMMEEE OOOFFFFFF!!! I will now turn off the rocket engine, retire to my opium den and wait to see what AT&T have to say. From the asbestos keyboard of, Dave Lukes. (<U.K.>!ukc!qtlon!dave)