[comp.sys.mac.hardware] Wren Runner Drives

jmurphy@helix.nih.gov (02/07/91)

Does anyone have experience with the Wren Runner 330mb drive
that APS sells? How does it compare to the non "runner" 300mb drive?

Any what does the "runner" technology give you?

I was also wondering about the drives Micronet is selling with the
seperate nubus card for the scsi? How much more speed does this give you???


Thanks.

Joe Murphy

National Institutes of Health, Division of Computer Research and Technology
Personal Computing Branch, Macintosh Support Group

Internet: jmurphy@helix.nih.gov, Bitnet: hal@nihdcrt

pnoguchi@helix.nih.gov (Philip Noguchi) (02/07/91)

Joe Murphy asks about WrenRunner drives. The 330 meg WrenRunner is a
Wren V type, with a maximum thruput of 1.5 megabytes per second on a
iici SCSI port. I believe that part of its speed comes from being a
short-stroke drive, ie it does not use the whole platter surface, but
only the fastest (outer?) portions. The nuport SCSI board from Micronet
does not speed up this drive, as the 1.5 meg/sec is its top speed. The
new Wrenrunner II 660 drive is twice as big, and uses a faster spindle,
I think 4400 rpm. When coupled with the Micronet Nuport, it will clock
at 3.0 megabytes per second, or twice as fast. The original wrenrunner
is fine, but older technology. For better thruput, the Wrenrunner II is
a clear winner when used with the Nuport. On a iici without a nuport,
Micronet has benchmarked the wrenrunner at 1.5 meg/sec, and the
wrenrunner II at 1.75 meg/sec.

Phil Noguchi

hodas@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Josh Hodas) (02/07/91)

In article <947@nih-csl.nih.gov> jmurphy@helix.nih.gov writes:
>Does anyone have experience with the Wren Runner 330mb drive
>that APS sells? How does it compare to the non "runner" 300mb drive?
>
>Any what does the "runner" technology give you?


My understanding is that a 330 Meg Wren Runner is really a 
660 Meg regular Wren on which only half of each platter is used.
This cuts the area the head must seek over, and therefore cust the 
average access times, in half.



Josh




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aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D Danziger) (02/09/91)

In article <37075@netnews.upenn.edu> hodas@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Josh Hodas) writes:
   In article <947@nih-csl.nih.gov> jmurphy@helix.nih.gov writes:
   >Does anyone have experience with the Wren Runner 330mb drive
   >that APS sells? How does it compare to the non "runner" 300mb drive?
   >Any what does the "runner" technology give you?

   My understanding is that a 330 Meg Wren Runner is really a 
   660 Meg regular Wren on which only half of each platter is used.
   This cuts the area the head must seek over, and therefore cust the 
   average access times, in half.

Any idea of price? (I know we could call but the price might tell us
whether it's worth it...)

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hammen@vpnet.chi.il.us (Robert Hammen) (02/11/91)

>I was also wondering about the drives Micronet is selling with the
>seperate nubus card for the scsi? How much more speed does this give you???

I just got a MicroNet 644/NP at work, replacing my old MacinStor 650 (which
is no slouch in the speed department - 16 ms access times). The initial
impressions I have are that this drive is FAST. Performance in disk-intensive
applications like Photoshop seems to be greatly improved. I can also notice
the speed with which my 44 INITs load at start-up :-)

I have to run some performance benchmarks for our sales department on Monday.
I plan to run both hard disk test programs (like DiskBasher! and SCSI
Evaluator) as well as real-world tests. When I have the results compiled,
I will post them.

Robert