[comp.sys.mac.hardware] 640x480 < [8bit-color-video-card-res] < 1024x768 ?

hardin@dino.cad.mcc.com (John Hardin) (02/26/91)

Does anyone know of a (reputable) *color* video card manufacturer (e.g.,
RasterOps, Micron, etc.) that is capable of displaying a resolution
GREATER THAN 640x480 but LESS THAN 1024x768?  I ask because I want to
purchase a Sony 1304 (which *is* 1024x768 (non-interlaced) capable)
and display something *more* than 640x480, but not have the DPI get
too high (say, greater than 85 or so)?  Micron Technology has a
1024x768 card that is displayable on the Sony 1304, but the DPI
approaches 100(!) (which, for me, is too high :-).  Any suggestions?
Is the MaxAppleZoom init compatible with the 1304 monitor?
(Currently, I have a MaxAppleZoom-compatible Apple video card.)

Thanks,
-jwh
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mkh6317@summa.tamu.edu (HOWARD, MATTHEW KENDALL) (02/26/91)

In article <HARDIN.91Feb25132302@dino.cad.mcc.com>, hardin@dino.cad.mcc.com (John Hardin) writes...
>Does anyone know of a (reputable) *color* video card manufacturer (e.g.,
>RasterOps, Micron, etc.) that is capable of displaying a resolution
>GREATER THAN 640x480 but LESS THAN 1024x768?  I ask because I want to
>purchase a Sony 1304 (which *is* 1024x768 (non-interlaced) capable)
>and display something *more* than 640x480, but not have the DPI get
>too high (say, greater than 85 or so)?  Micron Technology has a
>1024x768 card that is displayable on the Sony 1304, but the DPI
>approaches 100(!) (which, for me, is too high :-).  Any suggestions?
>Is the MaxAppleZoom init compatible with the 1304 monitor?
>(Currently, I have a MaxAppleZoom-compatible Apple video card.)
> 
>Thanks,
>-jwh
>--
>John Hardin			   MCC CAD Program
>AT&T:	512/338-3535		   3500 W. Balcones Center Drive
>ARPA:	hardin@mcc.com		   Austin, TX  78759-6509
>UUCP:	{harvard,gatech,uunet}!cs.utexas.edu!hardin%mcc.com

I have a Sony 1304 and awhile back was looking, as you are now,
for a hardware or software solution that would let me use all of
my 14" screen at 72-75 dpi.  (At this resolution, a 1" square drawn
in MacDraw using MacDraw's rulers will produce an image on the 
screen that measures 1" according to a real-world ruler held up to
the glass. ie WYSIWYG).  Most video cards are designed for either
13" displays at nearly 75dpi or 19" displays at nearly 75 dpi.  A
19" display at about 75 dpi is displaying about 1024 x 768 pixels.
A Sony 1304 is capable of displaying 1024 x 768 pixels so you can
put in a 19" card and connect it to a 1304 14" monitor and it will
work, but unfortunatly its displaying 100 dpi and the mac menus look
more like 6 pt fonts.  That is you have 19" of desktop squeezed into
14" of display.  A potential software solution is MaxAppleZoom but this
doesn't display anymore of the desktop. It mearly maps 640 pixels 
of virtual space into 7?? of hardware screen pixels.  That is, it
enlarges the image and a 1"in square according to the MacDraw rulers
will take up 1+ inches of the glass screen.  (Since the 1304 has
knobs that increase image size, MAZ is not needed to fill up more
of the 14" screen.)  The dpi goes down.

I didn't find any solution and I gave up.  However, in the last issue
of either MacUser or MacWorld (but not MacWeeK) there was an add
near the back that touted a new 14" board from raster-ops with a
price of "Call for Price" listed and no model number or further
description.  So, I could have made all this much much shorter
and said, "Call RasterOps.  They *may* be making 14" boards.)

Let me know if they are.

Matt
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nwc1@quads.uchicago.edu (einsturzende neubaten) (02/26/91)

I hope that this is related enough...Does anyone know if Stepping Out II
will work on an SE/30 with 8-bit 13"/14" color monitor? How would that work?
Does the color monitor get treated as a virtual screen? Or does the monitor
software completely kill all hope of using the 9" screen separately from
the bigger color display? Thanks for any answers...


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carl@crow.sybase.com (Carl Resnikoff) (02/28/91)

In article <12620@helios.TAMU.EDU> mkh6317@summa.tamu.edu writes:
>14" of display.  A potential software solution is MaxAppleZoom but this
>doesn't display anymore of the desktop. It mearly maps 640 pixels 
>of virtual space into 7?? of hardware screen pixels.  That is, it
>enlarges the image and a 1"in square according to the MacDraw rulers
>will take up 1+ inches of the glass screen.

Huh? I use MAZ on my Apple monitor with a vanilla Mac II, (8 bit color)
and it displays more of the desktop on my system.  It displays a desktop 
that is about 70 pixels higher and 50 pixels wider (sorry I don't have 
my mac handy to give the exact number, but I know its 7xx by 6xx).
You just adjust the height and width on the monitor so the whole
image is displayed on the screen. A 1" square in MacDraw becomes smaller,
not larger. By the way, I've been using MAZ 1.2 for 10 months and
think its great. I can get almost a full page on the screen.
I have never had any compatibility problems 
and would never go back to the normal desktop.