barek@lake.scar.toronto.edu (William Barek) (02/23/91)
Just today I have heard a rumor that new Classic has a system startup in ROM. If you press a certain key it will boot up without a disk. ??? I guess just a rumor, isn't it ??
dawg6844@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (<blank>) (02/24/91)
barek@lake.scar.toronto.edu (William Barek) writes: > Just today I have heard a rumor that new Classic has a system startup > in ROM. If you press a certain key it will boot up without a disk. > ??? I guess just a rumor, isn't it ?? No, this is correct. You need to hold down a certain set of special keys on startup. Shift-Command. (or was that Option-Command?) (Shift-Option-Command?) (Shift-Option-Mouse Button?) (Command-Shift-Option-Mouse Button???) well anywa, it DOES work, you just have to figure out which keys.
jhex_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeff Hexter) (02/25/91)
In <1991Feb24.005433.12900@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dawg6844@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (<blank>) writes: >barek@lake.scar.toronto.edu (William Barek) writes: >> Just today I have heard a rumor that new Classic has a system startup >> in ROM. If you press a certain key it will boot up without a disk. >> ??? I guess just a rumor, isn't it ?? >No, this is correct. You need to hold down a certain set of special keys >on startup. Shift-Command. >(or was that Option-Command?) >(Shift-Option-Command?) >(Shift-Option-Mouse Button?) >(Command-Shift-Option-Mouse Button???) >well anywa, it DOES work, you just have to figure out which keys. I think it was command-shift-X-O, but maybe the option key was supposed to be in there too. (I did get it to work... pretty nifty :) Jeff -- What is Cognitive Science? A better | Mcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmc question is what ISN'T Cognitive Science! | mcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmc... jhex_ltd@cc.rochester.edu | Jeff Hexter University of Rochester Apple Student Representative AOL: JeffHex
mr2t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Tod Rose) (02/26/91)
dawg6844@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (<blank>) writes: >barek@lake.scar.toronto.edu (William Barek) writes: > > >> Just today I have heard a rumor that new Classic has a system startup >> in ROM. If you press a certain key it will boot up without a disk. >> ??? I guess just a rumor, isn't it ?? > > >No, this is correct. You need to hold down a certain set of special keys >on startup. Shift-Command. >(or was that Option-Command?) >(Shift-Option-Command?) >(Shift-Option-Mouse Button?) >(Command-Shift-Option-Mouse Button???) > >well anywa, it DOES work, you just have to figure out which keys. Command, Option, X, O (that's "oh", not "zero"). All four, held down from power on to Finder. Apple's code name for the Classic was the Mac XO, so this makes a certain kind of sense. Unfortunately, I believe the ROM-wired system is 6.0.6, which implies that whateve major bugs forced the 6.0.7 release are still running free. -mike ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Michael T. Rose mr2t@andrew.cmu.edu 1069 Morewood Avenue "One day you'll come home shining out loud/ Pittsburgh, PA 15213 And we'll all be prouder than proud..." -Danny Wilson, *Davy*
jp48+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan Pace) (02/27/91)
From the "Information on Hidden Mac Treasures" at Sumex: For the Classic, hold down the Command-Option-X-O on startup. If you wait long enough the Mac will create an internal ROM disk (System 6.03, Finder 6.1x, AppleShare). Then use a utility that lets you see invisible folders (i.e. ResEdit, MacTools) and you will see an invisible folder in the ROM disk's system folder that lists those who worked on the Classic. Neat I have no idea what other systems and finders it will work with. Now that we know what to look for, maybe someone with a classic can try it and tell us. Jon Pace
ron@cai.uucp (02/27/91)
In article <wbmdgx600WB7M5E0pS@andrew.cmu.edu> jp48+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan Pace) writes: > > From the "Information on Hidden Mac Treasures" at Sumex: > > For the Classic, hold down the Command-Option-X-O on startup. If you wait >long enough the Mac will create an internal ROM disk (System 6.03, Finder 6.1x, >AppleShare). Then use a utility that lets you see invisible folders (i.e. >ResEdit, MacTools) and you will see an invisible folder in the ROM disk's >system folder that lists those who worked on the Classic. Neat > > I have no idea what other systems and finders it will work with. Now that >we know what to look for, maybe someone with a classic can try it and tell us. > >Jon Pace First of all holding down Command-Option-X-O with one hand while turning on my Mac is pretty difficult. I ended up using two hands to hold down the keys while hitting the switch on my power strip with my foot. I did see the Rom startup icon. I'm going to use Resedit tonight to find the hidden folder. That should make up for the fact that the developer names are no longer engraved on the inside of the Classic case. Also Macsbug is included in the Rom startup software. Ron
rush@mnementh.metaphor.com (Ed Rush) (03/05/91)
>> Just today I have heard a rumor that new Classic has a system startup >> in ROM. If you press a certain key it will boot up without a disk. >> ??? I guess just a rumor, isn't it ?? > >COMMAND-OPTION-O-X If I am not mistaken?!?!!? Control-Alt-Del? :-) (just a little blue humor) ----------------------------------------- Ed Rush, employed by but not speaking for Metaphor Computers, Mtn. View, CA UUCP: [...!{apple|decwrl}!]metaphor!mnementh!rush Internet: rush@mnementh.metaphor.com ----------------------------------------- Calm down, everyone, it's only ones and zeroes.
russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) (03/06/91)
In article <2106@metaphor.Metaphor.COM> rush@mnementh.metaphor.com (Ed Rush) writes: >Control-Alt-Del? :-) Actually, Apple never uses Control-Alt-Delete. It does, however, use the familiar combination Control-Open Apple-Reset for resetting the IIsi. (same combination used on the Apple //e, //c, IIGS) -- Matthew T. Russotto russotto@eng.umd.edu russotto@wam.umd.edu .sig under construction, like the rest of this campus. I mine 600 wells, and whaddo I get? Another day older and deeper in debt! --- Saddam Hussein.