[comp.sys.mac.hardware] Linking an Mac...

v564huce@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Allen Hsu) (03/07/91)

Chris Del Grande writes:

After just purchasing a second Macintosh, I would like to be able to transfer
the contents of the internal drive of my Mac Classic onto the internal
drive of my MacIIsi. Is there an easy (not be efficient) way of transfer-
ing this data via direct serial cable hookups? Someone mentioned something
about a null-modem (sp?) configuration, but I have little idea if this is an
acceptable means, or how to go about setting it up. I do have telecomm-
unications software (if needed) and I'm willing to purchase
CarbonCopyMac or similar software package if needed.

	How about "direct AppleTalk"?  A couples of friends and I used a
standard ImageWriter cable to link an SE and SE/30 for a little Falcon session. 
It worked fine and was a hell of a lot of fun!!!
	There might be some technical probs that I am not aware of.  If there
is, could someone with more network experience correct me or comment on this
method??  Thanks.

						Allen Hsu 

dinapoli@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ron DiNapoli) (03/07/91)

In article <63724@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> v564huce@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>Chris Del Grande writes:
>
>After just purchasing a second Macintosh, I would like to be able to transfer
>the contents of the internal drive of my Mac Classic onto the internal
>drive of my MacIIsi. Is there an easy (not be efficient) way of transfer-
>ing this data via direct serial cable hookups? Someone mentioned something
>about a null-modem (sp?) configuration, but I have little idea if this is an
>acceptable means, or how to go about setting it up. I do have telecomm-
>unications software (if needed) and I'm willing to purchase
>CarbonCopyMac or similar software package if needed.
>
>	How about "direct AppleTalk"?  A couples of friends and I used a
>standard ImageWriter cable to link an SE and SE/30 for a little Falcon session.
>It worked fine and was a hell of a lot of fun!!!

If this is a one-time deal; i.e, you won't be doing this often, you might just
consider getting a floppy and using the cheapest network there is...
"Sneaker-net".

Carbon Copy Mac has a retail list of (from the "Macintosh Buyer's Guide,
Summer 1990) about $199.  If you are only going to do this transfer of files
once, it might not be worth the bucks...

If you did manage with a null modem and communications packages, you would
have to transfer the files using whatever protocols are available in you
comm. packages.  Even at 19200 baud, it would take time to transfer the
files...

Now back to sneaker-net...  If you get a high density floppy, you could
probably transfer the files manually in less time than using a communication
package... and the total cost is $0.00 (if you already own a HD floppy) or
just a dollar or two if you don't currently own a HD floppy...

Just my opinion, it all depends on what you are willing to spend vs how much
inconvenience you can put up with :-)

Ron D.

tagreen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Todd A. Green) (03/08/91)

In article <63724@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> v564huce@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>Chris Del Grande writes:
>
>After just purchasing a second Macintosh, I would like to be able to transfer
>the contents of the internal drive of my Mac Classic onto the internal
>drive of my MacIIsi. Is there an easy (not be efficient) way of transfer-
>ing this data via direct serial cable hookups? Someone mentioned something
>about a null-modem (sp?) configuration, but I have little idea if this is an
>acceptable means, or how to go about setting it up. I do have telecomm-
>unications software (if needed) and I'm willing to purchase
>CarbonCopyMac or similar software package if needed.
>
>	How about "direct AppleTalk"?  A couples of friends and I used a
>standard ImageWriter cable to link an SE and SE/30 for a little Falcon session. 
>It worked fine and was a hell of a lot of fun!!!
>	There might be some technical probs that I am not aware of.  If there
>is, could someone with more network experience correct me or comment on this
>method??  Thanks.
>
>						Allen Hsu 


As far as I know there is no difference between the DIN-8 cable used
for an ImageWriter II and the localtalk cables provided by Apple,
as far as functionality between two machines goes.  That is to say
you could not daisy-chain the ImageWriter cables, but you can
hook two machines directly together.  I've also used the cable
to hook my IIcx up to a friends Plus to play falcon.  Sure beat 2400
baud.

One other thing you'll have to remember is that you'll still need some
type of software to to the file tranfering.  I'd suggest getting
public-folder.

Todd
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chai@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Ian Chai) (03/08/91)

I have an old 512k/E and a IIx which I have linked successfully with
the 512k/E's IW2 printer cable. I just unplug it from the IW2 and plug
it into one of the serial ports on the IIx. Then I start up RedRyder
or Zterm and set them to the same speed (as high as possible) and then
use Xmodem or something to transfer the files.

But I don't have to do that any more because there is this free 
SingleShare thing which is a freeware Appleshare server, so I use that
with phonenet/appletalk instead.

Hope this helps.

Ian
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