[comp.sys.mac.hardware] KEYBOARDS : Key Tronic or Data Desk?

frank@dvnspc1.Dev.Unisys.COM (Frank Piper) (03/19/91)

In article <298.27E01E1C@busker.fidonet.org> 
Eric.Westland@f75.n343.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Eric Westland) writes:
>I have a Classic and am not really happy with the feel of the new
>keyboard (if this is such a great keyboard, why is it not offered with
>the Mac II?). Anyways, I am looking at a 3rd party extended keyboard like 
>the MacPro from Key Tronic or the Data Desk Mac-101. 

We tried both the Mac-101 and the MacPro on a IIsi, & kept the MacPro because:
- The Mac-101's feel compared poorly to an older DataDesk keyboard we
had on a Plus.  Hitting a key produced a sharp 'click' at the end of its
travel; the key (and my finger) felt like it was hitting something hard
instead of the softer, more cushiony feel we wanted.  [However: the
Mac-101's feel was NOT like the high resistance then low resistance then
finger-bruising *CLICK* produced by some IBM PC keyboards.  Both were
far better than that.]  The MacPro had about the same resistance and a
softer 'click'.  [AND, if you're really picky, you can order rubber
grommets for the MacPro that change the resistance!]

- The Mac-101 had ADB compatibility problems with our IIsi.  The most
obvious is unlikely to matter to a Classic user: it didn't have a true
power key, and so didn't support the control-cloverleaf-power reset
sequence.  I really hated turning the IIsi off and on again every time
we got another bus error; I figured about three days of that would toast
the IIsi for sure.  [I believe that the Classic and LC don't support the 
power key; am I right?]   Another ADB problem we saw will probably
affect every Mac-101 user.  If I pressed or released the Shift key while
moving the mouse, the mouse cursor would skip across the screen like a
stone across a pond.  Really disconcerting when you were trying to
select some things on the desktop.  The MacPro has a true Power key
which supports ctrl-clover-power and ctrl-power (gets you into Macsbug),
and doesn't flake out when you hit the Shift key and move the mouse.

- The Mac-101 is bundled with MasterStrokes, a key macro program which
caused some bombs on our IIsi.  The MacPro comes with Tempo II, which is
a better program that didn't crash.

- On both keyboards, the mouse plugs into the back center and sticks
straight out, which means you can only push the keyboard to within about
an inch of the Mac's case.  This is dumb; why can't they plug the mouse
into the side like the Apple keyboard?  Harrumph.  

Anyway, we're happy with the MacPro.

BTW:  I bought the Mac-101 from & returned it to MacConnection; I bought
the MacPro from MacWarehouse.  Both McC and McW give good mailorder; McC
was quite nice while we were debugging the Mac-101 and cheerfully
accepted the return when we gave up.  I also spent some time hassling
DataDesk long-distance; they were polite, knowledgeable, & eager to
please.  If/when DataDesk fixes the Mac-101, it's worth a look. 
Besides, McC has a 30-day money back guarantee on DataDesk products.

O well, enough already.  Sorry this got so long; hope it helps.

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