[comp.sys.mac.hardware] 32-bit clean ROM upgrades

omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (04/05/91)

In article <13193@ur-cc.UUCP> afry@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Alan R. Fry) writes:
> I realize that the extra memory beyond 8 meg can't be accessed
>under system 6.0.x [on an SE/30], but what about 7.0's 32 bit mode?
>
>Has Apple made any peeps about whether they will be making a 512K ROM SIMM?

Here's what I heard about 32-bit clean ROMs for Macs without them:  Apple
has no plans to market a ROM upgrade solely for the purpose of providing
32-bit cleanliness.

But several months after System 7 hits the streets Apple might offer an
upgrade that would put key parts of System 7 (EventManager, etc.) into a
32-bit clean ROM.  Such an upgrade might be worth Apple's time and money
since it would provide significant new functionality.  (But don't hold
your breath.)

Disclaimer:  I'm not a developer nor anyone with inside info ... I'm just
reporting what an Apple person said at a recent support meeting.

The speaker's opinion was that IIcx, II, and IIx owners who really need
32-bit clean ROMs also probably need increased power.  They can buy IIci
and IIfx logic board upgrades, which give them both 32-bit cleanliness and
more speed.

I'm not sure I agree with this strategy, which is obviously expensive.
And it doesn't give options to SE/30 owners.  But that's what the Apple
speaker's opinion was.

That's all I know.  Standard disclaimers, mileage may vary, and all that ...

-John
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oleary@ux.acs.umn.edu (Doc O'Leary) (04/06/91)

In article <7164@mace.cc.purdue.edu> omalley@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) writes:

>Here's what I heard about 32-bit clean ROMs for Macs without them:  Apple
>has no plans to market a ROM upgrade solely for the purpose of providing
>32-bit cleanliness.

I have no opinion on whether Apple should offer upgrades solely for 32-bit
clean ROMs, but why don't they put 32-bit clean ROMs in, say, the SE->SE/30
upgrade?  I know it would make the option for an upgrade (rather than an
accelerator) much more attractive.  Right now I'm trying to make the
accelerator/upgrade decision and that just might sway me.

Apple, are you listening?

         ---------   Doc


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peter@norge.UUCP (Peter Espen) (04/10/91)

In article <3707@ux.acs.umn.edu>, oleary@ux.acs.umn.edu (Doc O'Leary) writes:
> 
> I have no opinion on whether Apple should offer upgrades solely for 32-bit
> clean ROMs, but why don't they put 32-bit clean ROMs in, say, the SE->SE/30
> upgrade?  I know it would make the option for an upgrade (rather than an
> accelerator) much more attractive.  Right now I'm trying to make the
> accelerator/upgrade decision and that just might sway me.
> 
> Apple, are you listening?
> 
>          ---------   Doc

	Apple went to the extra expense of designing in a ROM expansion slot into
every IIcx. When the IIcx came out, they sold this slot as a way to upgrade to
future ROM expansions and upgrades.   If Apple goes to the trouble and extra
cost of putting in an expansion connector, WHY DON'T THEY LET US USE IT?

	Peter Espen
	norge!peter@sophia.com

peter@java.sophia.com (Peter Espen) (04/10/91)

In article <3707@ux.acs.umn.edu>, oleary@ux.acs.umn.edu (Doc O'Leary) writes:
> 
> I have no opinion on whether Apple should offer upgrades solely for 32-bit
> clean ROMs, but why don't they put 32-bit clean ROMs in, say, the SE->SE/30
> upgrade?  I know it would make the option for an upgrade (rather than an
> accelerator) much more attractive.  Right now I'm trying to make the
> accelerator/upgrade decision and that just might sway me.
> 
  Apple went to the extra expense of designing in a ROM expansion slot into
every IIcx. When the IIcx came out, they sold this slot as a way to upgrade to
future ROM expansions and upgrades.   If Apple goes to the trouble and extra
cost of putting in an expansion connector, WHY DON'T THEY LET US USE IT?

        Peter Espen
        norge!peter@sophia.com