[comp.sys.mac.hardware] MAC keyboards--where are standard functions?

vancleef@iastate.edu (Van Cleef Henry H) (04/19/91)

We are developing on-line teaching for Unix and validating these 
through a conferencing BBS running Xenix 386.  
Our "learners" dial in from all over the world, are non-technical
people for whom everything has to be spelled out in detail.  

We have one Mac user dialing into the system, a musician running what
she identifies as an "old Macintosh."  She is running some sort of 
communications program that will emulate VT-100.  However, every time
we tell the users to "type Control-d" or any other non-typewriter
code, she tells us that her keyboard does not have the necessary keys.
We are not Mac people; I am the only one who has access to Macs, and our 
machines all have keyboards (labelled "Extended Keyboard") that have
the necessary keys.  Resolving this (it took two days to find someone
who could tell us that "Option-d" was "Control-d") is a perfect nuisance.
The latest drill is Escape for the vi editor.  We have received several
inputs ranging from Option-key combos to "use tilde for Esc"

What should we tell our user?  Is it possible for her to buy one of these
extended keyboards (and how much $$---our impression is that Mac stuff
all costs big bucks).  What questions can I ask her to determine 
exactly what keyboard she does have, and how can I get maps of what
codes Mac keyboards generate?  

Please respond via e-mail; our user is on uunet!tmn, but replies to 
me at iastate.edu are fine.  Thanks.

(return addresses in case my .signature does not load--flaky software)
uunet!tmn!vancleef (our user is on this system)
vancleef@iastate.edu  (Internet, replies here OK)


-- 
Hank van Cleef  
vancleef@iastate.edu	Iowa State University, Ames. Ia.
tmn!vancleef		The Union Institute, Cincinnati, Oh.

vancleef@iastate.edu (Van Cleef Henry H) (04/23/91)

I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this query.  Over 100 people
have reached out and offered help.  I have been able to work with our
user to determine that she has a MAC plus, cannot find documentation,
and has some sort of odd-ball lashup comm software.  We are getting a 
copy of Kermit for Mac to her, and have suggested she look at Red Ryder, 
White Knight, Versaterm Pro, etc.  

I would also like to thank the Mac community for responding to these questions
without getting into a lot of religion about micro computers in general.
Our user is quite happy with her Mac and we would like to keep it that way.
Thanks for helping me do that.

Hank van Cleef  
vancleef@iastate.edu	Iowa State University, Ames. Ia.
tmn!vancleef		The Union Institute, Cincinnati, Oh.





-- 
Hank van Cleef  
vancleef@iastate.edu	Iowa State University, Ames. Ia.
tmn!vancleef		The Union Institute, Cincinnati, Oh.