rotberg@dms.UUCP (Ed Rotberg) (04/30/91)
Hi, I just recently got a version of Multispool, and tried to used it on my Mac IIfx with my Deskwriter (v2.1 driver) hooked up via Appletalk. The program craps out consistently. When I go the the Multispool item in the Apple menu, the dialog box that comes up shows all the normal things along with a message that says "Background printer not present". If I catually try to print something the program bombs, usually due to the stack expanding into the heap are (thank you TMON). Does anybody have any info on whether or not Multispool will work with the Deskwriter hooked up via Appletalk, or is the problem something else?? Thanks in advance, - Ed Rotberg -
eaton@pacvax.UUCP (Mark W. Eaton) (05/02/91)
Sorry, I seem to have created a minor firestorm here with an earlier reply that seemed to indicated the MultiSpool works with the DeskWriter. The only way in which I have gotten it to work reliably is to spool things to it, wait until I am ready for a break and then let it print. I have never gotten it to work reliably while I continue working on the Mac. Setup Mac+ DeskWriter V2.0 software Serially connected Mark Eaton eaton@pacvax!UUCP Disclaimer: My statements are my own, whether rational or not...
price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) (05/02/91)
In article <371@pacvax.UUCP>, eaton@pacvax.UUCP (Mark W. Eaton) writes: >Sorry, I seem to have created a minor firestorm here with an earlier reply >that seemed to indicated the MultiSpool works with the DeskWriter. The >only way in which I have gotten it to work reliably is to spool things to >it, wait until I am ready for a break and then let it print. I have never >gotten it to work reliably while I continue working on the Mac. Well, then I'll go on record. It works fine for me. Yes, it's slow, but one doesn't expect speed from a Mac+ anyway. Yes, performance in the foreground suffers, but again, you don't expect performance from a Mac+. After I get my II*i (not sure if it'll be a "c" or an "s" yet), I'll let you all know how it goes. >Setup >Mac+ >DeskWriter V2.0 software >Serially connected This is interesting. I've heard from several sources that you need version 2.1 of the DW software. Perhaps this is your problem? John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
kik@wjh12.harvard.edu (Ken Kreshtool) (05/02/91)
In article <371@pacvax.UUCP> eaton@pacvax.UUCP (Mark W. Eaton) writes: >Sorry, I seem to have created a minor firestorm here with an earlier reply >that seemed to indicated the MultiSpool works with the DeskWriter. The >only way in which I have gotten it to work reliably is to spool things to >it, wait until I am ready for a break and then let it print. I have never >gotten it to work reliably while I continue working on the Mac. > >Setup >Mac+ >DeskWriter V2.0 software >Serially connected For what it's worth, MultiSpool works great for me (IIsi printing serially to a DeskWriter, DW 2.1 driver). Only "problems" are trivial. MultiSpool doesn't seem to pass along the DW's dialogs regarding envelope printing, so I just turn it off (from the DA menu) when I'm doing envelopes. And it seems only to recognize printers attached to the printer port. Not unreasonable, but I also use Freedom of Press Light ($55 for pretty darn good postscript on my DW! and they're now sending out a nicely improved and debugged release). And FofP includes a gizmo called FPSpooler that needs the printer attached to the modem port because of the way it and the Mac deal with AppleTalk being on while printing non-AppleTalkedly. So I tend to keep things plugged in for MultiSpool, and change plugs when I need postscript output. No big whoop. And I love having my Mac back while long docts are printing away. Ken Kreshtool kik@wjh12.harvard.edu
murdock@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jon Kyle Murdock) (05/02/91)
In article <00947F69.3589E420@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu> price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes: >In article <371@pacvax.UUCP>, eaton@pacvax.UUCP (Mark W. Eaton) writes: >>Sorry, I seem to have created a minor firestorm here with an earlier reply >>that seemed to indicated the MultiSpool works with the DeskWriter. The >>only way in which I have gotten it to work reliably is to spool things to >>it, wait until I am ready for a break and then let it print. I have never >>gotten it to work reliably while I continue working on the Mac. I'll add my two cents as well... I've been using MultiSpool on my SE/30 with a serially connected DeskWriter and 2.1 drivers. I couldn't get it to work before with 2.0 drivers. There doesn't seem to be much, if any, speed degredation (sp?) in either the printing or foreground task as long as neither is too complicated (i.e. it works fine if I print a file and go back to my word processing). I seem to remember it crashing if I exited an application during printing with the earlier drivers (2.0). Kyle Murdock murdock@matt.ksu.ksu.edu murdock@ksuvm.ksu.edu
price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) (05/02/91)
In article <597@wjh12.harvard.edu>, kik@wjh12.harvard.edu (Ken Kreshtool) writes: >For what it's worth, MultiSpool works great for me (IIsi printing serially to a >DeskWriter, DW 2.1 driver). >Only "problems" are trivial. >...And it seems only to recognize printers attached to >the printer port. Not true. My printer is attached to the modem port (I use a Plus, DW2.1, serially connected, & system 6.0.5). >And FofP includes a gizmo called FPSpooler >that needs the printer attached to the modem port because of the way it and the >Mac deal with AppleTalk being on while printing non-AppleTalkedly. This sounds more like a conflict between Multispool and FoP. As I say, using the modem port is not a problem. John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
kpottie@icarus.cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Pottie Karl) (05/03/91)
Two things I have noticed about multispool and the deskwriter: 1) it doesn't like Quickkeys 2.0 2) when you run out of paper, refill the sheet-feeder and put the deskwriter back on-line, the Mac doesn't see that it can continue printing.
price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) (05/03/91)
In article <3197@n-kulcs.cs.kuleuven.ac.be>, kpottie@icarus.cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Pottie Karl) writes: >2) when you run out of paper, refill the sheet-feeder and put the > deskwriter back on-line, the Mac doesn't see that it can continue > printing. True. This is, however, easy to fix. Get into the Multispool "DA", and select Update (or something like that - it's obvious when you look at it). This causes Multispool to print all the files you have in your Multispool Folder which is in the System Folder. John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
unicorn@lysator.LiU.SE (The Pink Unicorn) (05/06/91)
eaton@pacvax.UUCP (Mark W. Eaton) writes: >Setup >Mac+ >DeskWriter V2.0 software >Serially connected It works alright for me, running: MacClassic DeskWriter Driver 2.1 Serial hookup However, the first I had to do when I got it was to change to the 2.1 driver routine, while I still used 2.0 it would crash every other time or so. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
kik@wjh12.harvard.edu (Ken Kreshtool) (05/08/91)
In article <00947FE6.6E6CB240@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu> price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes: >In article <597@wjh12.harvard.edu>, kik@wjh12.harvard.edu (Ken Kreshtool) writes: >>For what it's worth, MultiSpool works great for me (IIsi printing serially to a >>DeskWriter, DW 2.1 driver). > >>Only "problems" are trivial. >>...And it seems only to recognize printers attached to >>the printer port. > > Not true. My printer is attached to the modem port (I use a Plus, >DW2.1, serially connected, & system 6.0.5). Sorry, JP. On my IIsi, MultiSpool does NOT work when the printer is attached to the modem port. Has nothing to do with Freedom of Press compatibilitie > >>And FofP includes a gizmo called FPSpooler >>that needs the printer attached to the modem port because of the way it and the >>Mac deal with AppleTalk being on while printing non-AppleTalkedly. > > This sounds more like a conflict between Multispool and FoP. As I >say, using the modem port is not a problem. > > John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu > Where there is no solution, there is no problem. And as I say above, it has nothing to do with FoP versus MultiSpool (in fact, FoP seems to ignore MultiSpool; at least, it prints through the modem port even while MultiSpool is stacking ordinary DeskWriter-bound files in its queue and saying -- wait a sec while I find out what it is saying -- Whoa! The damned thing just started printing the way JP says it will! Not this afternoon, not yesterday, not seven or eight times since I downloaded it, but right now, just as I am replying that once and for all that it won't work....it suddenly starts to work! Don't that beat all! Well, I guess my advice regarding MultiSpool is that if it doesn't do what you want it to do the first eight or ten times, don't give up. And if you have anything else that's broke, just have John Price tell you it ain't and then try to prove him wrong! Ken Kreshtool kik@wjh12.harvard.edu (and if it stops working again, I'll just show it JP's posting again...)
dbert@pogo.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Douglas Siebert) (05/08/91)
Someone posted to the net a few weeks ago saying they had solved the mystery of Multispool's schizophrenic performance (works for some people, doesn't work for others, works only sometimes for the rest) I was skeptical, thinking I had given Multispool a fair trial on my machine (hooked to a parallel Epson FX-80) and concluded it basically didn't work. The person posting said that Multispool only blows up on trying to print files from the Finder (i.e. if you use it with, say, TeachText, it won't blow up) I had always tried to do a "Print Directory" from the Finder, not figuring anything would be different from an application, so I tried it from TeachText. It worked. Every Time. Tried it from the Finder. Print Error 0. Every time. Hope this helps. -- Doug Siebert | dbert@gnu.ai.mit.edu MBA Student (2nd year) | "All opinions expressed herein are obviously (starting MS in CS this fall?) | superior to yours or you wouldn't have need The University of Iowa | to be reading this, now would you?" :-)
price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) (05/08/91)
In article <601@wjh12.harvard.edu>, kik@wjh12.harvard.edu (Ken Kreshtool) writes: >Well, I guess my advice regarding MultiSpool is that if it doesn't do what you >want it to do the first eight or ten times, don't give up. And if you have >anything else that's broke, just have John Price tell you it ain't and then try >to prove him wrong! I also do exorcisms. :) >(and if it stops working again, I'll just show it JP's posting again...) Just wait until you get my bill... :) John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu Where there is no solution, there is no problem.