bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) (05/19/91)
I have a Tulin 50Mb hard drive with an Adaptec ACB4000A controller board, and one thing I noticed but was never able to figure out was why the Apple HD SC Setup program never could see it -- whenever I ran the program, it told me something like `no suitable devices found connected to the SCSI port.' I figured this was because the hard drive's driver was incompatible. Well, I heard the Apple HD SC Setup program that comes with System 7.0 is compatible with third-party drives, now, and a thorough check of the System 7.0 Reference book found no mention that it was only for Apple drives or anything. So I tried running this latest version of the program right after I updated my hard drive's driver with Silverlining (which I understood was compatible with the HD Setup program). It still couldn't find my drive. What am I not seeing here? Is it just that my drive isn't capable of doing whatever it is that the HD Setup program modifies the driver to do, or have I just not found the right driver yet (and if not, then where should I look)? Apologies if I'm being vague -- I've never really understood what the HD Setup program is supposed to do. Can anyone Enlighten me on that point? advThanks, << Brian >> | Brian S. Kendig \ Macintosh | Engineering, | bskendig | | Computer Engineering |\ Thought | USS Enterprise | @phoenix.Princeton.EDU | Princeton University |_\ Police | -= NCC-1701-D =- | @PUCC.BITNET | "You gave your life to become the person you are right now. Was it worth it?"
blob@Apple.COM (Brian Bechtel) (05/20/91)
bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) writes: >Well, I heard the Apple HD SC Setup program that comes with System 7.0 >is compatible with third-party drives [...] I don't know where you heard the rumor, but there has been no change in the functionality of HD SC Setup with respect to 3rd party hard disks. HD SC Setup works only with Apple hard drives. I suggest purchasing Silverlining or some similar product instead. --Brian Bechtel blob@apple.com "My opinion, not Apple's"
russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) (05/22/91)
In article <53081@apple.Apple.COM> blob@Apple.COM (Brian Bechtel) writes: >bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) writes: > >>Well, I heard the Apple HD SC Setup program that comes with System 7.0 >>is compatible with third-party drives [...] > >I don't know where you heard the rumor, but there has been no change in >the functionality of HD SC Setup with respect to 3rd party hard disks. >HD SC Setup works only with Apple hard drives. I suggest purchasing >Silverlining or some similar product instead. ROTFL! There HAS been a change, and the information above is NOT true. As I recall from hacking HD SC Setup, it USED to FIRST check for the words "APPLE COMPUTER INC." as the result of some SCSI command. If that worked, the drive was considered usable. Then it checked to see if the type string matched a list-- if it matched anything in the list, again, the drive was considered useable. NOW it checks the list, and if it doesn't show up in the list, the drive is not usable. THEN it checks for APPLE COMPUTER INC., and if it doesn't find it, the drive is not usable. So to make it work with third party drives-- First, hack one of the strings in the resource fork (one of the CODE segments) to match what the drive tells SCSIProbe or SEdit. THEN do a search-and-replace in the resource fork for 0007 181C 660E 6000 replace with 0007 181C 6664 6000 -- Matthew T. Russotto russotto@eng.umd.edu russotto@wam.umd.edu .sig under construction, like the rest of this campus.
klingspo@mozart.cs.colostate.edu (Steve Klingsporn) (05/22/91)
If you have the "decompiling" version of ResEdit 2.1 and MacsBug, you can change the string(s) that will correspond to the hard disk, and therefore use a 3rd party hard disk. It's been done. Steve Klingsporn