[comp.sys.mac.hardware] SCSI Termination

feinberg@autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu (john a feinberg) (07/11/90)

Well two people were kind enough to answer my previous post which asked if I
needed to have terminators at both ends of a 2-device SCSI bus, even though
it already worked with one.  Unfortunately, my account ate the messages so
I can't reply to the senders directly.  Now I have one more question:  is there
a way I can build my own terminator?  Or just maybe stick resistors on the pins
of my hard drive, or something like that?  I don't want to pay $25 for a plug
with some 50 cent resistors attached to it.  I'd rather just pay for the 50 cent
resistors.

John Feinberg
SUNY Buffalo

consp22@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Darren Handler) (07/13/90)

	You can do it yourself. I have done it many times at my computer store,
however, I have forgotten the value of the resistors.  But I will tell
you everything else.

	On the controller board of the hard drive unit itself, torward the back
(where the cables connect) there will be 3 resistor banks, usually
yellow and I believe, 8 pins. If you see these, then the terminators are
installed. If they aren't installed, then all you will see are the flat
connectors where they plug into.  You can look (if possible) at the
internal drive you have in you machine.  If it is an SE, then the drive
is most likely installed in the machine controller side up.  I think the
values of the resistors are 10K or 100K.  I also don't remember if the
resistors are the straight through or parallel network type resistor.  Sorry.

	SCSI connector
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|     ------- -------- --------     |
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|        Approx location            |        |-----------------|
|         of terminators            |          | | | | | | | | 
|                                   |
|                                   |       The resistors look like this
|                                   |      are usually lay on their side
|                                   |       so you don't see the pins if
|                                   |       they are installed into the
|                                   |          sockets.


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sjhg9320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Maximum Slackness ) (05/18/91)

I have a Mac IIci with an External 80 Meg SCSI drive from LaCie and would
like to add an Internal 105 Meg Drive. I remember hearing something long 
ago and far away about the IIci having some wierd termination scheme- 
    What is it that I have to do to properly terminate the SCSI chain?

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ckoch@soul.UUCP (Chriss Koch) (05/25/91)

> I have a Mac IIci with an External 80 Meg SCSI drive from LaCie
> and would like to add an Internal 105 Meg Drive. I remember
> hearing something long ago and far away about the IIci having
> some wierd termination scheme-
>     What is it that I have to do to properly terminate the SCSI
>     chain?

Your internal hard disk should be equipped with built-in terminating
resistors.  Leave them in.

Next determine whether your external hard disk is equipped with
built-in terminating resistors.  If it is, then you need no other
termination.

However if the external hard disk does not have built-in terminating
resistors, use one Cable Terminator, between the cable and the hard
drive.

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