[comp.sys.mac.hardware] Apple talking to IBM

ejbehr@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Behr) (06/12/91)

A Mr. Ken Flamm (sp ?) from Brookings Institution, talking on the radio
about the reported Apple/IBM discussions, said that "Apple needs IBM's RISC
technology to stay competitive". It sounds strange, since Motorola also
makes RISC chips, doesn't it? Not to mention other manufacturers.

So, is IBM that much ahead in RISC? or is the whole explanation baloney?
Just curious.
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starta@tosh.UUCP (John Starta) (06/13/91)

ejbehr@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Behr) writes:

> A Mr. Ken Flamm (sp ?) from Brookings Institution, talking on the radio
> about the reported Apple/IBM discussions, said that "Apple needs IBM's RISC
> technology to stay competitive". It sounds strange, since Motorola also
> makes RISC chips, doesn't it? Not to mention other manufacturers.

Yes they do, and it's a fantastic chip!

> So, is IBM that much ahead in RISC? or is the whole explanation baloney?
> Just curious.

I haven't looked at the IBM RISC chip, so I can't comment on how far ahead 
or behind they are technologically speaking, but according to a WSJ article 
on the discussions, Motorola is reportedly having difficulties delivering 
their chips in large quanities. I don't know if this is actually true, or
if the WSJ writers where just fishing for an explanation.

John

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stevewi@hpspdra.spd.HP.COM (Steve Witten) (06/15/91)

> So, is IBM that much ahead in RISC? or is the whole explanation baloney?
> Just curious.

The San Jose Mercury News reported that it would take IBM at least 2
years to modify the RS6000 chipset so that it would be usable by Apple
in there systems (not to mention all the legal hassles that would have
to be worked out and all the $$$ that would have to change hands!).
The SJMN also reported that Apple has been working with Motorola from
the very beginning on its RISC chipset (MC880x0) and that the Motorola
chipset was "Mac-ready" now...

The SJMN speculated that a "future" MacOS could appear on IBM's
workstations (I believe it is common knowledge that Apple is working
on a portable successor to the MacOS but that it will be some time
before this effort sees the light of day).  The SF Bay Area TV news
reported that the talks were very preliminary and were aimed
primarily at network interoperability.

While the talks may be sincere, the hype that was made of them to the
press (as evidenced by the Apple spokesman's remarks in the SJMN) was
definitely spin aimed at the controlling the damage that the recent
layoff announcement (despite staggering sales figures for the new
Macs) has done to Apple's public image.

My opinions only... not my employer's.

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