djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) (10/04/89)
I would like to start a thread of discussion concerning what I believe
to be the most pressing issue in Object Oriented programming today,
namely making a grab for the names which have "oo" in them.
It is all part of a bigger phenomenon I call the techno-conventional
land rush. For example, it is a well known fact that when a new discipline
in mathematics is dreamed up, there is a frenzy to prove all the easy
theorems, and thus get one's name into the introductory textbooks.
(And we all know what a standards committee does.)
Sometimes names can be even easier to think of than easy math theorems.
In the past, we have seen programming-language designers clamor all
over themselves to grab up and subvert the meanings of all the abstract
nouns -- "type", "sort", "module", "class", and now "object" are just a few
of the generic words which have been seized and concreted. (I now
use the word "kind" extensively when talking about programs. No doubt
it will be the next to go.)
We must not fail to recognize the importance of the name-space grab, and
specificly the scrap over the "oo" words. Already we have seen the ughly
spectacle of the now infamous "zoo" controversy.
This my fellow objectiphiles, is just beginning.
Possible topics for discussion...
1. How to find and recognize "oo" words.
2. Ethics of "oo" acronyming. (Must the "oo" stand for "object-oriented"?)
3. Techniques in acronym design.
4. What constitutes a claim? (Is it sufficient to post a message saying,
"I am working on a system called 'book', which is scheduled for
completion sometime during this life.")
5. Alternate spellings.
***
P.s.
"Ooze" is mine, so hands off, okay?rad@aragorn.cm.deakin.oz.au (Robert Alan Dew) (10/04/89)
In article <8500@goofy.megatest.UUCP> djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) writes:
#
#I would like to start a thread of discussion concerning what I believe
# [ ... ]
#In the past, we have seen programming-language designers clamor all
#over themselves to grab up and subvert the meanings of all the abstract
#nouns -- "type", "sort", "module", "class", and now "object" are just a few
#of the generic words which have been seized and concreted. (I now
#use the word "kind" extensively when talking about programs. No doubt
#it will be the next to go.)
#
I think "kind" has already gone. The Smalltalk blue book mentions
four kinds of classes. The book is in the library at the moment, so I
can not give the reference pages, (I do not remember them). Look up
creating classes with indexed instances variables.
Robert Dew rad@aragorn.cm.deakin.oz.aulum@armadillo.cis.ohio-state.edu (Lum Johnson) (10/04/89)
In article <8500@goofy.megatest.UUCP> djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) writes: > >I would like to start a thread of discussion concerning what I believe >to be the most pressing issue in Object Oriented programming today, >namely making a grab for the names which have "oo" in them. ... > >Possible topics for discussion... > >1. How to find and recognize "oo" words. Well, this one is easily disposed of: get an old TOPS-20 system and run the old WORDS program on it. Here are the results, reformatted to four columns rather than three: [PHOTO: Recording initiated Wed 4-Oct-89 9:19AM] (photo) - words WORDS>help (with WORDS program) Use the WORDS command with word mask to get lists of words. Here are some useful types of examples: WORDS>WORDS *ectomy !List all english words ending in !"ectomy". WORDS>WORDS c%%%t !List all 5-letter words starting with !c and ending with t. WORDS>WORDS bart* !List all words starting with "bart". WORDS>WORDS %%%%%%%%%%%%* !List all words at least 12 letters !long. If the WORDS program is on SYS:, you can give the exec pseudocommand @WORDS mask which will list the words matching the mask and return to the exec. The EXIT command exits from WORDS. WORDS>words *oo* abloom adulthood afoot afternoon afternoons aloof aloofly aloofness alumroot anteroom arrowroot arrowwood aswoon aunthood baboon baboonish babyhood bachelorhood backwoods backwoodsman balloon ballooning balloonist ballroom ballyhoo bamboo bamboos bamboozle bamboozled bamboozlement bamboozling bandicoot bankbook barefoot barefooted barracoon barroom bassoon bassoonist basswood bathroom bazooka bedroom beefwood befool behoof behoove behooved behooving bentwood billhook birthroot bitterroot blackamoor blood bloodbath bloodcurdling bloodcurdlingly blooded bloodfin bloodguilt bloodguiltiness bloodguilty bloodhound bloodied bloodily bloodiness bloodless bloodlessly bloodlessness bloodletting bloodline bloodmobile bloodred bloodroot bloodshed bloodshot bloodstain bloodstained bloodstock bloodstone bloodstream bloodsucker bloodsucking bloodthirstily bloodthirstiness bloodthirsty bloodworm bloodwort bloody bloodying bloom bloomer blooming bloomy bloop blooper boardroom 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woolskin wooly woomera woops woozier woozily wooziness woozy wordbook workbook workroom wormwood yahoo yahoos yearbook yellowwood zebrawood zoo zoogenic zoogenous zoogeog zoogeographer zoogeographic zoogeography zooglea zoogleal zooid zooidal zooks zool zoolatry zoologic zoological zoologically zoologist zoology zoom zoomorphic zoonosis zoonotic zooparasite zooparasitic zoophagous zoophilic zoophilous zoophyte zoophytic zooplankter zooplankton zooplanktonic zoos zoosporal zoosporangium zoospore zoosterol zootechnics 1472 words found. WORDS>exit (from WORDS) (photo) - pop [PHOTO: Recording terminated Wed 4-Oct-89 9:24AM] This list is not absolutely exhaustive: "bitterroot" is included, but "Bitterrooter" (one who lives in the Dakota Bitterroot region) is not. Also, one can easily manufacture new words from the above: "wooly" -> "woolily" (conversion of adjective to adverb). But it is a starter set. Lum -=- -- Lum Johnson lum@cis.ohio-state.edu lum@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu "You got it kid -- the large print giveth and the small print taketh away." -------
ttwang@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Thomas Wang) (10/04/89)
It is a good idea for us to hammer out a standard set of terminalogies,
and have a monthly posting of the standard Object terminalogies.
This way, we will be talking in the same language.
-Thomas Wang (member function == method == messages = ...)
ttwang@polyslo.calpoly.edulishka@uwslh.UUCP (Controlled by cockatiels) (10/05/89)
djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) writes: >2. Ethics of "oo" acronyming. (Must the "oo" stand for "object-oriented"?) No, the "oo" can also stand for "oggled otters." >P.s. > "Ooze" is mine, so hands off, okay? Sorry, I have in front of me an article from a 1981 Byte on Smalltalk object oriented virtual memory in which the author Ted Kaehler states that he and Dan Ingalls "designed and built a virtual memory to support the Smalltalk-74 system called OOZE (Object-Oriented Zoned Environment)." Therefore, ooze is already taken. Personally, I'll take "shoop" (remember the "shoop-shoop" song...at least I think that was the title...) which stands for "Some Horrendous Object Oriented Program". 'Nuff said! -- Christopher Lishka ...!{rutgers|ucbvax|...}!uwvax!uwslh!lishka Wisconsin State Lab of Hygiene lishka%uwslh.uucp@cs.wisc.edu Data Processing Section (608)262-4485 lishka@uwslh.uucp "What a waste it is to lose one's mind -- or not to have a mind at all. How true that is." -- V.P. Dan Quayle, garbling the United Negro College Fund slogan in an address to the group (from Newsweek, May 22nd, 1989)
preston@titan.rice.edu (Preston Briggs) (10/05/89)
In article <448@uwslh.UUCP> lishka@uwslh.UUCP (Controlled by cockatiels) writes: >djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) writes: >> "Ooze" is mine, so hands off, okay? >already taken. Personally, I'll take "shoop" (remember the "shoop-shoop" >song...at least I think that was the title...) which stands for "Some >Horrendous Object Oriented Program". 'Nuff said! Naah. Booze, boob (ok, maybe not), boondoggle, zoo. At least that's what caught my eye as the list rolled by. Preston
jima@hplsla.HP.COM (Jim Adcock) (10/06/89)
Here's some selected OOD favorites. I dibs "wood" to mean a "Wanna-be Object Oriented Design[er]" Example: "Ada is wooden" babyhood bachelorhood backwoods bentwood blood bloody boodle caboodle childhood deadwood "Used to Wanna-be an OO Designer" dogwood doodad doodle doodlebug doodler doodling driftwood falsehood firewood "Flammable Wanna-be OODesigner" flapdoodle flood food "Fast Object Oriented Design" godhood good "Good Object Oriented Design [recursive]" goody hardwood "Hardware Wanna-be OO Design[er]" hood "Hardware OOD" hoodlum hoodoo hoodwink koodoo latewood "Delayed Shippment Wanna-be OOD Software" likelihood livelihood matchwood mood moody neighborhood noodle noodled ood oodles orphanhood parenthood plywood pood poodle priesthood pulpwood pureblood redwood sainthood sapwood sasswood seafood selfhood shittimwood snood sourwood statehood stinkwood "..." stood torchwood unhood unlikelihood voodoo wildwood wood "Wanna-be OODesign, OODesigner" woodcock "..." wooded woodenheaded "Headed towards Wanna-be OOD" woodenware woodier woodland "Place of Wanna-be Object Oriented Designers" woodlander "One from the Place of Wanna-be Object Oriented Designers" woodlore "From the Place of Wanna-be Object Oriented Designers" woodlot woodman woodnote woodpecker "..." woodpile woodruff woods woodshed woodsman woodsy woodturner woodwind woodwork woodworker "Wanna-be Object Oriented Designer" woodworking "Wanna-be Working in OOD?" woody wormwood "..." yellowwood "Would be OOD if my managers didn't get cold feet" zebrawood "Wanna-be who keeps changing opinions?"
jima@hplsla.HP.COM (Jim Adcock) (10/06/89)
Some selected OOP favorites: bloop blooper coop droop hoopla loop nincompoop oops paratroop poop an object-oriented core dump? scoop pooperscooper an object-oriented tracer/debugger? sloop snoop snoopy swoop troop whoop whoopee whoopla whoops woops zooparasite OODL: boodle caboodle doodle goodly hoodlum noodle oodles poodle woodland woodlore woodlot
georgec@syacus.acus.oz (George Chan) (10/06/89)
lum@armadillo.cis.ohio-state.edu (Lum Johnson) writes: >In article <8500@goofy.megatest.UUCP> djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) writes: >> >>1. How to find and recognize "oo" words. >Well, this one is easily disposed of: get an old TOPS-20 system and run >the old WORDS program on it. Here are the results, reformatted to four >columns rather than three: [a few hundred lines of junk is deleted] >1472 words found. >Lum >-=- >-- >Lum Johnson lum@cis.ohio-state.edu lum@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu >"You got it kid -- the large print giveth and the small print taketh away." >------- Com'on man, what's the point in sending hundred bytes of irrelvant information? wasting bandwidth?? I thought the original idea of this group is to DISCUSS object-oriented related issues, if you want to send a joke try rec.humor.funny! [FLAME OFF] Disclaimer: This is my opinion only. If you want to flame me, mail it to me please. -- George Chan ACUS/UNiSYS +61 2 887 6930 georgec@syacus.acus.oz.au 115 Wicks Rd, North Ryde NSW 2113 Australia
hallett@pet3.uucp (Jeff Hallett x5163 ) (10/06/89)
In article <9450003@hplsla.HP.COM> jima@hplsla.HP.COM (Jim Adcock) writes: >Here's some selected OOD favorites. I dibs "wood" to mean a "Wanna-be Object >Oriented Design[er]" Example: "Ada is wooden" > backwoods Jethro WantsTaBe an OO Designer >deadwood "Used to Wanna-be an OO Designer" dogwood A Really slow wann-be OO Designer driftwood A Hobo Wanna-be an OO Designer >firewood "Flammable Wanna-be OODesigner" >food "Fast Object Oriented Design" >good "Good Object Oriented Design [recursive]" >hardwood "Hardware Wanna-be OO Design[er]" >hood "Hardware OOD" >latewood "Delayed Shippment Wanna-be OOD Software" matchwood Spouse of a wanna-be OO Designer mood Mediocre OO Designer plywood Wanna-be OO Designer with multiple personalities pood Poor OO Designer pulpwood Wanna-be OO Designer who writes lots of papers redwood American Indian Wanna-be OO Designer sapwood A Geek wanna-be OO designer sasswood A smart-mouthed wanna-be OO designer shittimwood A really bad wanna-be OO designer sourwood A wanna-be OO designer with a bad attitude >stinkwood "..." torchwood An arsonist wanna-be OO desitner wildwood A party animal wanna-be OO designer >wood "Wanna-be OODesign, OODesigner" >woodcock "..." wooded A wanna-be OO designer who made it. >woodenheaded "Headed towards Wanna-be OOD" woodenware OO CASE tools woodier Languages that are closer to being OO - Ada is woodier than C. >woodland "Place of Wanna-be Object Oriented Designers" >woodlander "One from the Place of Wanna-be Object Oriented Designers" >woodlore "From the Place of Wanna-be Object Oriented Designers" woodlot Where wanna-be OO Designers park. woodman A REAL wanna-be OO designer. :^) :^) (Doesn't eat quiche) woodnote A musical wanna-be OO designer >woodpecker "..." woodpile An orgy of wanna-be OO designers woodruff A tough wanna-be OO designer woods Many wanna-be OO designers woodshed The OO computer systems engineering building woodsman Plural of woodman woodsy Like a wanna-be OO designer woodturner A Wanna-be OO Designer who can't sleep well at night woodwind when a wanna-be OO Designer passes gas woodwork an OO program >woodworker "Wanna-be Object Oriented Designer" >woodworking "Wanna-be Working in OOD?" >wormwood "..." >yellowwood "Would be OOD if my managers didn't get cold feet" >zebrawood "Wanna-be who keeps changing opinions?" -- Jeffrey A. Hallett, PET Software Engineering GE Medical Systems, W641, PO Box 414, Milwaukee, WI 53201 (414) 548-5163 : EMAIL - hallett@gemed.ge.com "Your logic was impeccable Captain. We are in grave danger."
emoffatt@sunray.UUCP (Eric Moffatt) (10/07/89)
In article<1924@brazos.Rice.edu> preston@titan.rice.edu (Preston Briggs) writes: > >Naah. Booze, boob (ok, maybe not), boondoggle, zoo. >At least that's what caught my eye as the list rolled by. > >Preston How about GOOP: "Graphical Object Oriented Programming" or GOOF: "Graphical Object Oriented Formatter" :-} -- Eric (Pixel Pusher) Moffatt - Cognos Incorporated: 3755 Riverside Drive Voice: (613)738-1440 (Research) FAX: (613)738-0002 P.O. Box 9707 uucp: uunet!mitel!sce!cognos!emoffatt Ottawa, Ontario, arpa/internet: emoffatt%cognos.uucp@uunet.uu.net CANADA K1G 3Z4
dwiggins@atsun.a-t.com (Don Dwiggins) (10/07/89)
In article <1924@brazos.Rice.edu> preston@titan.rice.edu (Preston Briggs)
writes (about words containing "oo"):
Naah. Booze, boob (ok, maybe not), boondoggle, zoo.
At least that's what caught my eye as the list rolled by.
Preston
My personal favorites were the words beginning with the morpheme "oo",
meaning "related to ovum". Some possible definitions:
oocyte: a class definition
oogenesis: the process of writing class definitions
oolite: an immutable object
oologist: one who studies object-oriented programming and design
oosphere: the world of object-oriented programming and design
(compare "noosphere")
Oologically yours,
--
Don Dwiggins "Solvitur Ambulando"
Ashton-Tate, Inc.
dwiggins@ashtate.uucp
dwiggins@ashtate.a-t.comdwj@acd4.UUCP ( Dan Johnson ) (10/08/89)
In article <1924@brazos.Rice.edu> preston@titan.rice.edu (Preston Briggs) writes: >Naah. Booze, boob (ok, maybe not), boondoggle, zoo. ^^^ If I remember some postings in other newsgroups properly, this word is already taken^2 elsewhere. -- Daniel W. Johnson Applied Computing Devices, Inc. UUCP: uunet!acd4!dwj Earth: 39 25 02 N / 87 19 55 W (approx.) ARPA: acd4!dwj@uunet.uu.net Compu$erve: >INTERNET:dwj@acd4.UUCP :-| - this space unintentionally left blank -
marc@dumbcat.UUCP (Marco S Hyman) (10/09/89)
But what about Basic Object-Oriented Programming? And I'm sure that someone
is now writing the BASIC Object-Oriented Book.
And how do we stop the formation of the Bombastic Object-Oriented Kultur
(look it up)?
--marc
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// Marco S. Hyman {ames,pyramid,sun}!pacbell!dumbcat!marcjack@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) (10/09/89)
rad@aragorn.UUCP (Robert Alan Dew) wrote: > djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) writes: >> In the past, we have seen programming-language designers clamor all >> over themselves to grab up and subvert the meanings of all the abstract >> nouns -- "type", "sort", "module", "class", and now "object" are just a few >> of the generic words which have been seized and concreted. (I now >> use the word "kind" extensively when talking about programs. No doubt >> it will be the next to go.) > I think "kind" has already gone. The Smalltalk blue book mentions > four kinds of classes. And it has been given a semi-technically-precise meaning by Cardelli for his QUEST language, where it's a collection of types. (QUEST is rather like the Martin-Lof universe hierarchy, but stopping at level 3). I think QUEST was described at the 1988 Extending Database Technology conference (EDBT 88, in the Springer-Verlag Lecture Notes in Computer Science series). This problem, incidentally, is as old as Plato. It is interesting to compare the diagrams in Cardelli's paper with those in Wilfred Sellars' "The Soul as Craftsman", an article from the early Fifties about Plato's metaphysics (reprinted in one of his collections; "Philosophical Studies", I think). Cardelli's diagrams were all anticipated by Sellars - not surprising since the content they illustrate was too. One of the better examples of computer science generating ideas by parodying philosophical thinking. -- Jack Campin * Computing Science Department, Glasgow University, 17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8QQ, SCOTLAND. 041 339 8855 x6045 wk 041 556 1878 ho INTERNET: jack%cs.glasgow.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk USENET: jack@glasgow.uucp JANET: jack@uk.ac.glasgow.cs PLINGnet: ...mcvax!ukc!cs.glasgow.ac.uk!jack