info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/15/84)
From: Richard Garland <OC.GARLAND%CU20B@COLUMBIA> There are several programs running under VMS which allow one to Connect to another port which may be connected to a dialer or directly to another system: VAXNET - on a decus tape several years back. KERMIT - on current (just released spring '84 - mine just came) decus tape. This, in addition to acting like a terminal to the remote system, can allow error free file transfer if the remote side has kermit. There is certainly a Unix Kermit available (also on the same tape). Note that Kermit on the remote (Unix) end is not necessary for simple terminal use. VAXDIAL - my submission on current decus tape. Incorporates Kermit and allows various other goddies including support for an autodialer and various subprocess control options. I assume when you said you would connect an asynchronous VAX port to a SYNCHRONOUS port on your UNIX machine, you meant ASYNCHRONOUS port on your Unix machine. I think you probably could never get anything to work with an ASYNCH connectted to a SYNCH port. Remember when you connect the 2 together, use a "null modem" cable: i.e. conductors connected to pins 2 and 3 reversed. Rg -------
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/17/84)
From: Richard Garland <OC.GARLAND%CU20B@COLUMBIA> I have had no problems losing characters. Trick is to insure that you have plenty of type-ahead buffer space and use flow control. In the case of terminal emulation (passthrough) flow control is usual to have anyway (since for example VT100's use it in both directions). When something like KERMIT is running, flow control is generally turned off and KERMIT does the packet retries. I have certainly run these things routinely at 1200 baud with a dialer, and at 9600 (to an RT11 system rather than Unix) direct wired. I would stress unless the outgoing port is set with type-ahead, and HOSTSYNCH (I think that's the one) there is no chance. Another approach I have been told works, is to use Unsolicited IO Mailbox AST's and read the whole buffer in rather than single character IO. In that case you just set up a Mailbox AST and wait. When it comes you can ascertain the buffer size and you just read it all at once. Obviously Type-ahead must be on here as well. Note the type-ahead buffer size can be increased arbitrarily with the alternate type-ahead setting. Rg -------
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/17/84)
From: engvax!KVC@cit-vax The solution is NOT to do single character QIO's. See the CALLOUT program on the Spring '84 DECUS tape. I have never seen CALLOUT lose a character at any baud rate up to 9600 on a 750 or 780. I have never seen it get stuck in a MWAIT either. In fact, because of the way it grabs characters off the line, it is far less of a burden to the system at 9600 baud than it is at 1200 baud. It spends less time in KERNEL mode than any other remote terminal program I have gotten my hands on. (although, at 1200 baud, it does load the system a bit). /Kevin Carosso engvax!kvc @ CIT-VAX Hughes Aircraft Co.
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/18/84)
From: lhasa!stew@harvard.ARPA I use Bob Bruccoleri's VAXNET program for both file transfer and terminal emulation between my vms vax and other vaxes, both vms and unix. Remote file transfer software is available in fortran-IV, fortran-77, C and lisp. Most of my work is over a hardwired line at 19.2 Kbaud. The kernel mode overhead is no greater than typing a file at 19.2 Kbaud, maybe less. This is nonnegligible on DZ's, but we use an Able VMZ/32 and have a dozen or so terminals running at 19200 on our 750. Stew Rubenstein rubenstein@harvard.arpa ihnp4!harvard!rubenstein
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/19/84)
From: politik!paul@BERKELEY (Paul Vixie) Yes, certainly, if the machine you are talking to suppports XON/XOFF, this works pretty well. Even then, however, the typeahead (or altypeahead) buf can fill up before you get rescheduled to empty it; VMS sends ascii 07 (bell) for every character that overfloweth (or a complex escape sequence to lock your keyboard if DEVTYPE=VTxxx). When I am linked to BSD, it likes to echo ^G when it receives 07, and the ^G further overflows the buffer, so more 07s are sent, which causes more ^Gs to be echoed... finally you pull the plug or stop your process. wery wery smart design for a typeahead buf. I will try the unsolicited I-O. I've already tried every combination of READSYNCH, HOSTSYNC, and TTSYNCH. Anything is worth a try. Paul Vixie
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/19/84)
From: politik!paul@BERKELEY (Paul Vixie)
Alas, we are not members of DECUS.. a fond hope for the distant future... I
do not have access to VAXNET or CALLOUT. Is the nature of DECUS such that the
programs are public-domain after release? Can some Kind Soul uucpmail the
source to one or more of these buggers?
Paul Vixie
{sun!texsun | ucbvax!mtxinu | dual!ptsfa} !politik!paulinfo-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/19/84)
From: Mark Johnson <MHJohnson@HI-MULTICS.ARPA> About connecting between the 780 (running VMS?) and the 11/44 running Unix.... You indicated that you had an X.25 link from your 780 to the university network. Is the 11/44 connected as well and are you running PSI on the VAX?? If so, why not run SYS$SYSTEM:PSIPAD? That program is similar to the DECNET RTPAD which is run when you SET HOST to another system. PSIPAD will prompt you for a command which could change PAD parameters, attach to a remote system or perform a few other actions. We are using PSI to connect a 780 running VMS to a Multics system (the one I am composing the message from) and it works ok. The PSI software only supports the DTE side of an X.25 connection so our Multics system acts as the DCE (the "network"). It seems to run pretty efficiently too. A final note, the VAX to Multics connection seems to always work ok. The Multics to VAX connection has a number of "quirks" with echoing, especially with running EMACS on the VAX. I don't know if this is a generic problem, but you might want to know. --Mark Johnson <MHJohnson @ HI-MULTICS>
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/19/84)
From: Richard Garland <OC.GARLAND%CU20B@COLUMBIA> Anyone can join DECUS (free I think). Ask your local DEC salesman for details. The tapes come out twice a year and are distributed through a "tree" of volunteers. I will try to dig up the distribution list and mail it to you as the sources are too voluminous to try to mail out. You could then get a tape or tapes from someone relatively local to you. Rg -------
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/19/84)
From: Richard Garland <OC.GARLAND%CU20B@COLUMBIA> Paul: It occurs to me that a much simpler way to empty the type-ahead buffer (simpler than the mailbox AST) is to simply do a large read with timeout with time=0. This has been suggested to me several times over the years as the quickest way to say "give me all you got". There is also a status type QIO I think which returns the number of characters in the type- ahead buffer. Using that you couls then do another read to get everything. One function I always wanted was "read whole type-ahead buffer" but alas that is missing. Another issue is where your process goes when it is waiting. You couls be event flag driven and be in LEF or you could be AST driven and be in HIB. The time it takes to reschedule and the probability of being swapped out may differ in these 2 cases. I'm not sure which is better but the stuff I'm using now is AST driven with HIBERs and WAKEs. The character passthrough is at program level with just a wakeup being done at AST level. Others (e.g. KERMIT) do all the character passthrough at AST level. You might try combinations of these things. I avoided doing the passthrough at AST level since I wanted to spawn subprocesses and such depending on special escape codes in the character stream. Rg -------
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/19/84)
From: Richard Garland <OC.GARLAND%CU20B@COLUMBIA>
Paul:
Here follows the latest list of sites distributing the VAX
DECUS tapes. Find one near you and giva a call to arrange a tape
swap. The last 3 "tapes" were actually 2 volumes each. Prior to that
there was one tape twice a year.
Rg
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JOE BINGHAM
MANTECH INTERNATIONAL
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(703) 838 5600
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-------info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/21/84)
From: politik!paul@BERKELEY (Paul Vixie) Richard: Thanks for the DECUS listing. If it is indeed free, I might be able to get my company to join (funny: I asked for 6MB of RAM for our site and got it the same day, but decus is a "nonessential"). READ?BLK!IO$M_TIMED with TIME=0 *does* do a "read whole typeahead buffer". And yes, I do make use of "how many characters are there in the typeahead buffer" in another program. The trouble with either of these approaches is that they depend on polling, which usually means echo-delay which drives me bananas. Still, I suppose I could wait for a single-char AST and then empty the whole buffer in one swipe... I'll try that. My currentv approach has been to get the characters and put them into a FIFO (two of them: one outgoing, one incoming) that is read in non- AST mode following a WAKE call from the AST. Works ok unless the system is heavily loaded in which case the old "^G" <-> "\007" wars begin... Possibly with the two ideas taken together I can make things work. To the person who sent me TTLINK: thank you, but it doesn't work well on my heavily loaded development 750. Drops characters. Better than Bell Wars, but still not quite on the spot. Very nice code, though. Paul Vixie
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (09/28/84)
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