[comp.object] ECOOP '89 Proceedings

pallas@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Joe Pallas) (04/08/90)

I've been looking for the ECOOP '89 proceedings for a long time.  The
'87 and '88 proceedings were published by Springer-Verlag, but not the
'89 proceedings.  For a long time that's all I knew.

The Stanford bookstore has finally gotten the book.

1) It took nine months from the conference to availability of the
   proceedings.
2) The book is hardback, and priced US $69.50.

I personally think this is outrageous.  I'd like to know why an
effective (relatively fast and inexpensive) publisher was abandoned.
This does not seem like the right way to disseminate scientific
information in a rapidly moving field.

For those of you who might want to purchase this book, it is published
by Cambridge University Press, and the ISBN is 0-521-38232-7.  I doubt
that I will be buying it, even though I would very much like to have
its contents in my personal library.

joe

steve@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Steve Cook) (04/13/90)

In article <1990Apr8.014624.15649@Neon.Stanford.EDU> pallas@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Joe Pallas) writes:
>I personally think this is outrageous.  I'd like to know why an
>effective (relatively fast and inexpensive) publisher was abandoned.
>This does not seem like the right way to disseminate scientific
>information in a rapidly moving field.

As the editor of the proceedings, I can tell you.  The British
Computer Society, who sponsored and adminstered the conference,
have an exclusive contract with the Cambridge University Press.
We had no reasonable option other than to use them for the
proceedings.  I am sorry it is so expensive for you and that it
took so long for your store to obtain.  I expect future ECOOP
conferences to revert to Springer.

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wlp@calmasd.Prime.COM (Walter Peterson) (08/22/90)

I am looking for the exact publication information ( publisher,
ISBN, etc. ) for the Proceedings of the 1989 European Conference
on Object-Oriented Programming ( ECOOP '89 ).  My friendly local
tech book store has been able to get the '87 and '88 ECOOP 
proceedings, published by Springer-Verlag, for me, but they can't
find a reference to ECOOP '89 from Springer nor can they find the
ECOOP '89 title in "Books in Print."

Can someone help with this, please ?

Thanks in advance,

Walt

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kopp@gmdzi.UUCP (Juergen Kopp) (08/22/90)

@book{ECOOP89,
	title = {Proceedings of the 1989 European Conference
                 on Object-Oriented Programming,
                 University of Nottingham,
                 10.-14. July 1989},
	publisher = {Cambridge University Press},
	year = {1989},
	editor = {Stephen Cook}
	ISBN = {0-521-38232-7}
}

  --jak

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hjb@otter.hpl.hp.com (Harry Barman) (08/22/90)

ECOOP'89

Proceedings of the 1989 European Conference on Object-Oriented Programming,
East Midland Conference Centre, University of Nottingham, 10-14 July 1989.

Edited by Stephen Cook, Department of Computer Science, Queen Mary College,
London.

Published by the Cambridge University Press on behalf of the British Computer
Society.

ISBN 0 521 38232 7


Cheers,

Harry

ncjuul@diku.dk (Niels Christian Juul) (08/22/90)

wlp@calmasd.Prime.COM (Walter Peterson) writes:

>I am looking for the exact publication information ( publisher,
>ISBN, etc. ) for the Proceedings of the 1989 European Conference
>on Object-Oriented Programming ( ECOOP '89 ).  My friendly local
>tech book store has been able to get the '87 and '88 ECOOP 
>proceedings, published by Springer-Verlag, for me, but they can't
>find a reference to ECOOP '89 from Springer nor can they find the
>ECOOP '89 title in "Books in Print."
It ain't from Springer Verlag in 1989 the publisher was the British
Computer Society and their agent Cambridge University Press.
It meigt be difficult to get outside Europe, and it's a heavy thing
(hard bound). My information about it is:

@proceedings(ECOOP89,
	Key		= "ECOOP'89",
        Editor  	= "Stephen Cook",
	Title		= "{ECOOP'89}, Proceedings of the 1989 {E}uropean 
			   {C}onference on {O}bject-{O}riented {P}rogramming, 
			   {B}ritish {C}omputer {S}ociety {W}orkshop
 			   {S}eries",
	Month		=  jul,
	Year		=  1989,
	Publisher	= "Cambridge University Press",
	Abstract	= "Conference held the 10--14 July 1989 at 
			   East Midland Conference Centre,
			   University of Nottingham, England.
			   Proceedings contains 21 refereed (selected from 90)
			   and 2 invited papers"
	)
The ISBN number is 0-521-38232-7.

Maybe You can buy it directly from the British Computer Society. They
had some for appr. 35 pound sterling just after the conference.

You can get the bibtex bibliography from me with all the 23 articles indexed.

Also note that the most relevant papers has been published in a special
issue of 'The Computer Journal' also by the British Computer Society.
(I havn't got the volume and number here)

>Can someone help with this, please ?
I did it.
>Thanks in advance,
A pleasure
>Walt
Niels Chr.
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