[fa.info-vax] small vaxen

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (10/17/84)

From: Human Designed Systems <Hds%upenn.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa>

We are looking into getting a small vax to support four programmers doing
mostly editing (emacs), with C and Fortran compilations in the background.
We need 40-60 MB of disk.  DEC recommends the 730, but people have complained
about them being "slow".  I have heard marvelous rumours about the uVAX II
being significantly faster; however, our local DEC sales rep was vague on
the product's capabilities and pricing (and everything else).

Any suggestions on an appropriate configuration?  How real is the uVAX II
and how fast is it?  Should we wait for it?  Any comments would be
appreciated (directly to me, since I am not on the infovax list).

Thanks.... Don Krasnick, Human Designed Systems

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (10/19/84)

From: decvax!genrad!bolton!garry@BERKELEY (Garry Baer)

	plan on next spring - summer.  I can not talk about the details
but all claims for the mvax is .8-.9 of a 780 performance wise.

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (10/19/84)

From: dual!paul@BERKELEY

You should consider some of of 68000 based computer systems 
unless you really have to have a VAX for a reason not specified
in your information request.

My employers manufacture a system that would seem to fit your
requirements, except for being a VAX.  It is a Dual Systems 83/80.
It has a fast 80Mbyte disk with a controller that has a full
track buffer,  serial I/O processors and comes with a UNIX port.
It has done very well in some benchmarks performed by Yates Ventures
I believe.

I am an engineer here and not a sales person.  If you would like
more information, please call a salesperson at the phone number
below.

Paul Wilcox-Baker
Dual Systems Corporation
2530 San Pablo Ave
Berkeley   CA 94702
[415] 549 3854

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (10/22/84)

From: decvax!ittvax!keegane@BERKELEY

We have a beta test of ULTRIX-32m running on our microVAX which
can really only support 1 to 2 users mostly because there isn't
enough disk.  We've heard that the MicroVAX II will probably be
announced in February 1985, its performance is somewhere between
a 750 and a 780, closer to the 750.  Based on MIPS, with the 780
being a 1 and the 750 a .7, looks like uVAXII could be .8.  Also
the uVAXI will be field upgradable to a II (board swap).  I have
no real feel for the 730, however the uVAXI is rated as a .3 and
the 730 a .36 so their real close. We do have some EMACS users on
our 780's and it really eats up the system, so my suggestion is
that a 750 may be more appropriate unless you want to wait for 
the MicroVAX II.

keegane%UCB-VAX@ittvax.UUCP (10/23/84)

From: decvax!ittvax!keegane@Berkeley

We have a beta test of ULTRIX-32m running on our microVAX which
can really only support 1 to 2 users mostly because there isn't
enough disk.  We've heard that the MicroVAX II will probably be
announced in February 1985, its performance is somewhere between
a 750 and a 780, closer to the 750.  Based on MIPS, with the 780
being a 1 and the 750 a .7, looks like uVAXII could be .8.  Also
the uVAXI will be field upgradable to a II (board swap).  I have
no real feel for the 730, however the uVAXI is rated as a .3 and
the 730 a .36 so their real close. We do have some EMACS users on
our 780's and it really eats up the system, so my suggestion is
that a 750 may be more appropriate unless you want to wait for 
the MicroVAX II.