[alt.sys.sun] alt.sys.sun????

jessea@dynasys.UUCP ( Sysadmin.) (10/02/89)

It is hard to convey feelings over the net, so I'll say at the beginning that
I am not angry, upset, or anything else along those lines.  This will sound
like I am.

Lately, I have been observing a disturbing trend on the net.  It seems that
many of the quidelines set up to keep the net intact are becoming violated
with increasing frequency.  Huge .sig files, constant flame wars, extreme
rudeness, etc.  Everyone (correction - a lot of people) are only interested
in solely what they perceive to be in their short-sighted interest.  
I can no longer sit back and watch this extremely useful and fascinating and
sometimes beautiful thing get trashed.

Why two newsgroups about Sun systems?  Ah, someone will doubtless say the these
are going to be about two aspects of Sun systems.  So what.  Is there any
reason that the one newsgroup will NOT suffice.  I don't think so.  Even if
there is, it doesn't belong in the alt category.  Why not just put it in the
rec category, or perhaps soc?  Those areas have been created with specific
purposes.

I know there is no governing body in usenet except its sysadmins.  So, unless
someone can come up with a pretty good reason why I should have two newsgroups
about Sun systems, I will not permit alt.sys.sun on my system or any systems
that get a feed from me.  Rules are there for a purpose.  They keep things from
falling apart and letting everyone do whatever they chose.  Obey them.

<off soap box>  Thanx for putting up with my tirade.  :-)

-- 
        Jesse W. Asher
        Dynasys               (901) 382-1705  
        6196-1 Macon Rd., Suite 200, Memphis, TN  38134  
        uunet!dynasys!jessea

bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) (10/05/89)

In article <12@dynasys.UUCP> jessea@dynasys.UUCP ( Sysadmin.) writes:
   Is there any reason that the one newsgroup will NOT suffice.  I
   don't think so.

Some think that c.s.s has a too-high latency, and those views have
been well represented here.  If you don't agree, then don't carry
a.s.s on your machine.

   Even if there is, it doesn't belong in the alt category.

There are no rules in alt.*  Anything belongs there that anyone wants
to put there.

   ...unless someone can come up with a pretty good reason why I
   should have two newsgroups about Sun systems, I will not permit
   alt.sys.sun on my system...

You're welcome to do that, and nobody will have grounds to complain.
You're even welcome not to carry c.s.s, and nobody will have grounds
to complain.  What distributions you carry, and what newsgroups in
those distributions, are your own choice and don't affect anyone else.

   ...or any systems that get a feed from me.

You have no power to do that unless you buy those systems and pay
their administrators' salaries.  As always, they don't need to get
your permission to find another feed.

   Rules are there for a purpose.  They keep things from falling apart
   and letting everyone do whatever they chose.  Obey them.

Keep chanting this mantra: "There are no rules in alt.*."

tadguy@cs.odu.edu (Tad Guy) (10/06/89)

In article <BOB.89Oct5095846@puffer.MorningStar.Com> bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) writes:
   In article <12@dynasys.UUCP> jessea@dynasys.UUCP ( Sysadmin.) writes:
      ...unless someone can come up with a pretty good reason why I
      should have two newsgroups about Sun systems, I will not permit
      alt.sys.sun on my system...

   You're welcome to do that, and nobody will have grounds to complain.
   You're even welcome not to carry c.s.s, and nobody will have grounds
   to complain.  What distributions you carry, and what newsgroups in
   those distributions, are your own choice and don't affect anyone else.

      ...or any systems that get a feed from me.

   You have no power to do that unless you buy those systems and pay
   their administrators' salaries. 

Wrong.  He is welcome to not feed a newsgroup to any of his downstream
neighbors just as he is welcome to not carry a newsgroup himself.
It's his system (to manage), and he can choose what it carries/feeds,
regardless of what his downstream neighbors want. 

Alas, this doesn't have anything to do with Suns...

	...tad