jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J. Eric Townsend) (10/17/90)
w/o permission... Infoworld, 15Oct90, "Notes from the field" (a "rumors" column). JUST PLANE DELUSIONS? Stretching the bounds of *any* reality, I've heard that Commodore and Sun will in November announce that Commodore will take over Sun's Intel and Motorola workstation lines. I'm still not sure I believe this, but the idea is that Sun doesn't want the support burden, while COmmodore is desperate to get into the Unix market. -- J. Eric Townsend Internet: jet@uh.edu Bitnet: jet@UHOU Systems Manager - University of Houston Dept. of Mathematics - (713) 749-2120 EastEnders list: eastender@karazm.math.uh.edu Skate UNIX(r)
taylor@limbo.Intuitive.Com (Dave Taylor) (10/17/90)
J. Eric Townsend notes that the virtual Bob Cringley at InfoWorld had in his latest column: > Stretching the bounds of *any* reality, I've heard that Commodore > and Sun will in November announce that Commodore will take over Sun's > Intel and Motorola workstation lines. I'm still not sure I believe > this, but the idea is that Sun doesn't want the support burden, > while Commodore is desperate to get into the Unix market. I find this a bit curious since Commodore already has a Unix system that they're selling; the Amiga 3000. Not only that, but it's supposedly the first box in the market *shipping* with System V Release 4 too. (and they didn't even announce it to the press *or* their customers!) Curiouser and curiouser -- does anyone know what kind of CPU chip is to be found inside the Amiga 3000? -- Dave Taylor Intuitive Systems Mountain View, California taylor@limbo.intuitive.com or {uunet!}{decwrl,apple}!limbo!taylor
david@twg.com (David S. Herron) (10/18/90)
In article <1358@limbo.Intuitive.Com> taylor@limbo.Intuitive.Com (Dave Taylor) writes: >> Stretching the bounds of *any* reality, I've heard that Commodore >> and Sun will in November announce that Commodore will take over Sun's >> Intel and Motorola workstation lines. I'm still not sure I believe >> this, but the idea is that Sun doesn't want the support burden, >> while Commodore is desperate to get into the Unix market. > >I find this a bit curious since Commodore already has a Unix system >that they're selling; the Amiga 3000. Not only that, but it's supposedly >the first box in the market *shipping* with System V Release 4 too. >(and they didn't even announce it to the press *or* their customers!) I don't find this too wildly strange ... Sun has been edging towards doing away with its 680x0 line for quite some time. But they have all those customers out there with Sun3's who'll want support. Soooo... Oh, and there's this Sun 386i I'm typing this on .. sigh. As for Commodore not talking about the A3000/UX system -- well, they have been talking about it but probably not very loudly. They have been demonstrating it at trade shows for at {least,almost} a year. And they are shipping to customers, though it's a beta version that's shipping to selected customers .. The base SysVr4 isn't even out of beta test yet -- how could Commodore be shipping to the general public? Commodore is apparently a bit nervous about selling a Unix system through their normal dealers. Perhaps taking over Sun's 680x0 work would give them access to dealer channels more able to deal with Unix? >Curiouser and curiouser -- does anyone know what kind of CPU chip is >to be found inside the Amiga 3000? 25 MHz 68030 with custom support chips that do all the fancy screen modes & voice output one would expect from a Multi Media Computer. There's also a slot sitting there on the mother board just waiting for 68040's to come on market -- with 3rd party board vendors with designs being designed ... > -- Dave Taylor >Intuitive Systems >Mountain View, California > >taylor@limbo.intuitive.com or {uunet!}{decwrl,apple}!limbo!taylor -- <- David Herron, an MMDF & WIN/MHS guy, <david@twg.com> <- Formerly: David Herron -- NonResident E-Mail Hack <david@ms.uky.edu> <- <- Remember: On System V it's "tar xovf", not "tar xvf"!
peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (10/19/90)
In article <1990Oct16.210223.11883@lavaca.uh.edu> jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J. Eric Townsend) writes: > Stretching the bounds of *any* reality, I've heard that Commodore > and Sun will in November announce that Commodore will take over Sun's > Intel and Motorola workstation lines. Sounds great! Does this mean we'll get NeWS on the Amiga? NeWS skates on X'es head! -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>.
korp@atlantis.ees.anl.gov (Peter Korp) (10/22/90)
Not only would it be great to have an 040 Sun and Amiga in the office but to have them both run NeWS would be wonderful. If C= has really ported all of V.4 then we should get the X11/NeWS server too. Anybody know for sure? Peter
peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (10/22/90)
In article <1990Oct22.004657.12644@mcs.anl.gov> korp@atlantis.ees.anl.gov (Peter Korp) writes: > If C= has really ported all of V.4 then we should get the X11/NeWS server too. Ecch. Gilding a plastic lily. I don't want NeWS on top of X. I want NeWS on top of Intuition. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>.
Thomas.Weihrich@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Weihrich) (10/25/90)
If Commodore took over the SUN 680x0 and 386 line, it would be a pest for
all decent SUN-users:
Still worse quality with an increased incompatibility and growing lack
of support.
The mere idea makes me puke.
Also, if I am to buy a computer, I'll buy a SUN (or a similar workstation);
if I want to get a video game, I'll stick with ATARI.
Disclaimer: the statements given above reflect my personal opinion
and are not intended to hurt anybody.
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen) (10/27/90)
In article <3710@uniol.UUCP> Thomas.Weihrich@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Weihrich) writes: > >If Commodore took over the SUN 680x0 and 386 line, it would be a pest for >all decent SUN-users: >Still worse quality with an increased incompatibility and growing lack >of support. >The mere idea makes me puke. If SUN is abandoning the -3 and -3x families, I'd petition DEC to bring out an ULTRIX release for (a defined group og configurations of) these machines. 68000's are good cousins for VAXes, and DEC support is so much nicer than SUN support. -- / Lars Poulsen, SMTS Software Engineer CMC Rockwell lars@CMC.COM
Thomas.Weihrich@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Weihrich) (10/30/90)
lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen) writes: >If SUN is abandoning the -3 and -3x families, I'd petition DEC to bring >out an ULTRIX release for (a defined group og configurations of) these >machines. 68000's are good cousins for VAXes, and DEC support is so much >nicer than SUN support. >-- >/ Lars Poulsen, SMTS Software Engineer > CMC Rockwell lars@CMC.COM I'd vote for this proposal. Thomas Weihrich -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Weihrich Thomas.Weihrich@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de weihrich@uniol.uucp bitnet : Thomas.Weihrich%arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de@DOLUNI1 > We had joy, we had fun, we had PACMAN for the SUN ... < -----------------------------------------------------------------------------