info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/03/85)
From: Lars Poulsen <LARS@ACC> I do most of my work in three somewhat distinct environments: - VAX/VMS (Vanilla 3.7) - TWG Eunice (3.2) - 4.2 BSD Unix After a period of trying to use native tools in each environment, I have more or less given up on EDT and I now stick to VI on any system that has it. (Has anybody written a VI emulator for TPU ?) ----- Next, I have to come to terms with text formatters; it looks like I am going to have to live without the real nice ones (which I hear are SCRIBE and TEX) and make do with RUNOFF (DSR) and NROFF/DITROFF. Ideally, I'd like to have a compatible subset; it looks like it oughta be possible to write a DSR emulation in NROFF (provided you stick to the two-letter versions of the commands), but I definitely wouldn't want to build it myself. Has anyone done it ? Our in-house systems support group hacked up a package which I don't happen to like much, and then they say that if you want something else (or more) you should use -ms (or was it -me ?). Not that they'd really support it, of course. Also the inhouse package cannot be loaded together with -me or -ms. What do other people do ? For system managers, how do you overcome the learning/documentation barrier of nroff ? / Lars Poulsen <Lars@ACC.ARPA> ------
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/04/85)
From: jose rodriguez <jrodrig@mitre-gateway>
Hey,
Nothing beats the tuple {emacs,ispell,scribe,dover}. Now I am
stuck with {(vi,ed(!)),spell+edtypo,nroff,(lpt,imagen)} and how I long
for the past. The imagen is not bad though. oh well
Jose
jrodrig@mitre-gw
anyone heard of tops20 in a chip?info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/05/85)
From: decvax!ittvax!long@BERKELEY (H. Morrow Long [Systems Center])
Emacs and scribe can be obtained for most versions of Unix.
H. Morrow Long
ITT-ATC Systems Center, Shelton, CT
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From: Richard Furuta <Furuta@WASHINGTON.ARPA> -------
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/05/85)
From: Richard Furuta <Furuta@WASHINGTON.ARPA> I replied directly to the originator of the message about this but for the record, let me remind everyone that TeX is also available for Berkeley Unix (4.1 and 4.2) on the Vax and on the Sun as well as being available for VMS. The cost is comparatively low ($75 for the Unix one, $300 or less for the VMS one). --Rick -------
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/12/85)
From: ihnp4!houxm!hou2h!pgp@UCB-VAX I used EDT and RUNOFF for years and was fairly content. They may not be as powerful as UNIX family stuff, but they are infinitely better documented. Sounds like your just UNIX bound.