info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/15/85)
From: Provan@LLL-MFE.ARPA Gee, I must be getting old. I remember when "small" meant 10K. If you guys want small, find one of those. If you want user friendly, buy lots of memory. But don't go around bragging about 2439K systems being "small".
info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/16/85)
From: fortune!redwood!rpw3@UCB-VAX +--------------- | From: Provan@LLL-MFE.ARPA | Gee, I must be getting old. I remember when "small" meant 10K. | If you guys want small, find one of those. If you want user | friendly, buy lots of memory. But don't go around bragging | about 2439K systems being "small". +--------------- Both referenced systems included not just the operating system kernel, but a complete systems utility environment, spoolers, editor, etc. I appreciate "small". OS/8 (for the PDP-8) was delightful, even with just 8K words of memory and running on floppies. And the in-memory kernel was just 256 words (384 words on 12- to 32-K machines). But even OS/8 was bigger than 10K, if you include BUILD, TECO, BATCH, PRINT, PIP, the command decoder, etc., for a fair comparison. Try several hundred K, or most of an RX02 floppy. (And yes, that's still smaller than 2439 K.) Rob Warnock Systems Architecture Consultant UUCP: {ihnp4,ucbvax!dual}!fortune!redwood!rpw3 DDD: (415)572-2607 USPS: 510 Trinidad Lane, Foster City, CA 94404