[fa.info-vax] Formatting Floppies on a 780

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/31/85)

From: Jim Lewinson <a.Jiml@SU-GSB-WHY.ARPA>

We have a VAX-11/780 and I have a whole pile of blank 8" floppies that I would
like to use to build a new Console Floppy.  However, the floppies seem to not
be formatted and all of my attempts to get the Vax to do so have failed.
I have tried under Unix 4.2bsd with rxformat, except it seems to have no clue
that the console is a floppy disk, VMS doesn't seem to have a program to do
the job, and DEC's Diagnostics also seem to be unable to cope with someone
who wants to format the console media.

Has anyone managed to do this??
					Thanks,
					Jim
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info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/31/85)

From: Richard Garland <OC.GARLAND%CU20B@COLUMBIA.ARPA>

To format floppies (for 780 console) try FLX -
	$ Run Sys$System:FLX
	FLX> CS1:/RT/ZE
(or something like that.)  Also consult SYS$UPDATE:CONSCOPY.COM.

There is also a pile of LSI-11 type diagnostics which should run from the
console (stand-alone) which includes a set of RX01 diagnostics - probably
a formatter is in there.   We had a problem with our RX01 a while back and
we dug out these things, unused in about 5 years.
					Rg
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info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (01/31/85)

From: Rudy.Nedved@CMU-CS-A.ARPA

Jim,

In general DEC's floppy drives use the sync signal from the disk
for operations. Therefore unless the floppy is already formatted somehow...
you can not format them.

I have been burned several times with this...occasionally the buyer
for various data junk like tapes, chips and floppies gets me unformatted
and voilia...I quickly find I have problems trying to get arff to work
under Unix or R FORMAT under RT-11.

-Rudy

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (02/07/85)

From: cbosgd!clyde!watmath!utcsrgv!orton@BERKELEY (Ed Orton)

I have encountered similar problems. It can be done with one of the DEC
field service utilities, but the process takes so long that I did them all on myhome micro.