jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) (10/02/89)
I just inherited a 9332/440 SCSI disk for my RT. Lo and behold,
the IODN numbers for the minidisks on it conflict with the IODNs
on my internal drives.
I have tried reading a few of the manuals but can't find the one
that says how to change IODNs on disks. I had this problem
once before when I installed an E70 disk from someone elses RT
into my machine and tried removing the minidisks from it. VRM
wound up deleting the minidisks on the first E70 it found, not
the one I wanted ;-(
$1,000,000 USENET BUCKS to the first person to find out where
this stuff is documented ...
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UUCPNet: {texbell|bigtex}!rpp386!jfh +--------------------------------------oleg@gryphon.COM (Oleg Kiselev) (10/02/89)
In article <17087@rpp386.cactus.org> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes: >I just inherited a 9332/440 SCSI disk for my RT. Lo and behold, >the IODN numbers for the minidisks on it conflict with the IODNs >on my internal drives. Well, isn't that a bummer? Aren't we all tickled pink by the idea of IODNs to begin with? What kind of cretinous mind would conceive of such a parody of real UNIX? And to think that some misguided, simpleminded idiots were trying to preserve that abortion of an idea in PS/2 AIX! At least I made sure that there was not a single mention of the very *word* IODN anywhere in 370 code. Disgusting. -- "No regrets, no apologies" Ronald Reagan Oleg Kiselev ARPA: lcc.oleg@seas.ucla.edu, oleg@gryphon.COM (213)337-5230 UUCP: [world]!{ucla-se|gryphon}!lcc!oleg
jason@cs.utexas.edu (Jason Levitt) (10/03/89)
In article <17087@rpp386.cactus.org> John F. Haugh II writes: >I just inherited a 9332/440 SCSI disk for my RT. Lo and behold, >the IODN numbers for the minidisks on it conflict with the IODNs >on my internal drives. [stuff deleted] >I have tried reading a few of the manuals but can't find the one >that says how to change IODNs on disks. [stuff deleted] >$1,000,000 USENET BUCKS to the first person to find out where >this stuff is documented ... I believe the reference is "Managing the AIX Operating System", second edition (September 1988). Starting on page 4-39, it says, "You can use the varyon command to configure an IBM 9332....The only thing varyon ever changes on a module is the names or IODNs of its minidisks." And then it goes on in more detail.... I'd like my $0xF4240 USENET BUCKS compressed and uucp'ed to the address below, please. :-) -j ----- Jason Levitt P.O. Box 49860 Austin, Texas 78765 (512) 459-0055 Internet: jason@cs.utexas.edu | "The most effective debugging tool is UUCP : cs.utexas.edu!hackbox!jason | still careful thought, coupled with BIX : jlevitt | judiciously placed print statements." | -Brian Kernighan [1978]
buck@siswat.UUCP (A. Lester Buck) (10/03/89)
In article <17087@rpp386.cactus.org>, jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
< I just inherited a 9332/440 SCSI disk for my RT. Lo and behold,
< the IODN numbers for the minidisks on it conflict with the IODNs
< on my internal drives.
<
< I have tried reading a few of the manuals but can't find the one
< that says how to change IODNs on disks. I had this problem
< once before when I installed an E70 disk from someone elses RT
< into my machine and tried removing the minidisks from it. VRM
< wound up deleting the minidisks on the first E70 it found, not
< the one I wanted ;-(
<
< $1,000,000 USENET BUCKS to the first person to find out where
< this stuff is documented ...
< --
< John F. Haugh II
(This is no reflection on John's skill, only a comment on the
atrocious lack of support for AIX within and without IBM.)
John Haugh is a contractor working on AIX internels in Austin,
surrounded by several thousand experts on AIX, and he will
probably get his answer much faster by asking Usenet.
--
A. Lester Buck ...!texbell!moray!siswat!buckgarnett@rpp386.cactus.org (John Garnett) (10/05/89)
In article <458@siswat.UUCP>, buck@siswat.UUCP (A. Lester Buck) writes: >In article <17087@rpp386.cactus.org>, jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes: 1,000,000 USENET BUCKS to the first person to find out where > < this stuff is documented ... > < -- > < John F. Haugh II > > (This is no reflection on John's skill, only a comment on the > atrocious lack of support for AIX within and without IBM.) > > John Haugh is a contractor working on AIX internels in Austin, > surrounded by several thousand experts on AIX, and he will > probably get his answer much faster by asking Usenet. > IBM does provide support for AIX - for IBM System Engineers (SE's) and qualified IBM customers. Support is provided electronically and most questions are answered within one business day. For more information, you can contact your IBM Systems Engineer (SE) or Marketing Representative. -- +---------------------------------------------+--------------------------+ | Namenet: John W. Garnett | Base 1.9 | | Internet: garnett@rpp386.cactus.org | | | Uucpnet: {bigtex|texbell}!rpp386!garnett | "It's almost binary." |
njs@scifi.UUCP (Nicholas J. Simicich) (10/05/89)
In article <458@siswat.UUCP> buck@siswat.UUCP (A. Lester Buck) writes: >In article <17087@rpp386.cactus.org>, jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes: [Question about IODNs, and resolving conflicts] >(This is no reflection on John's skill, only a comment on the >atrocious lack of support for AIX within and without IBM.) >John Haugh is a contractor working on AIX internels in Austin, >surrounded by several thousand experts on AIX, and he will >probably get his answer much faster by asking Usenet. Garbage. There is an internal IBM conference on Unix, called IBMUNIX, where I'm sure that this question has been asked and answered many times. I recall answering it a few times myself. His fastest path to an answer would have been to search (grep from his workstation if he has VM NFS installed at his site) through the archives for an answer. I know for a fact that there is at least one copy of the archives in Austin. John's even posted to the internal conference a few times. He just prefers to ask here, I suppose. -- Nick Simicich --- uunet!bywater!scifi!njs --- njs@ibm.com (Internet)
jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) (10/05/89)
In article <17094@rpp386.cactus.org> garnett@rpp386.cactus.org (John Garnett) writes: >In article <458@siswat.UUCP>, buck@siswat.UUCP (A. Lester Buck) writes: >> (This is no reflection on John's skill, only a comment on the >> atrocious lack of support for AIX within and without IBM.) >> >> John Haugh is a contractor working on AIX internels in Austin, >> surrounded by several thousand experts on AIX, and he will >> probably get his answer much faster by asking Usenet. > >IBM does provide support for AIX - for IBM System Engineers (SE's) and >qualified IBM customers. > >Support is provided electronically and most questions are answered >within one business day. For more information, you can contact your IBM >Systems Engineer (SE) or Marketing Representative. The reason for posting was that the best answer anyone could come up with at IBM was to reformat the SCSI. I was hoping to find an answer which didn't involve reformatting the SCSI or booting VRM. Some problems require solutions which don't involve tossing users off of an RT for an hour or four to reformat and reorganize a disk. I have since managed to get the SCSI to work by removing minidisks from my three internal drives and recreating them with different IODNs. Interesting sidebar - you can remove a minidisk and recreate it with a different IODN without losing the contents if you very very carefully use the same identical parameters as it was created with. I had this same exact problem when I added inherited my last ESDI disk ... I have been told there is an IODN changing program on a VRM diagnostic diskette. You should probably use that instead of juggling minidisk partitions like I do. Oh yeh, I don't speak for IBM. -- John F. Haugh II +-Things you didn't want to know:------ VoiceNet: (512) 832-8832 Data: -8835 | The real meaning of MACH is ... InterNet: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org | ... Messages Are Crufty Hacks. UUCPNet: {texbell|bigtex}!rpp386!jfh +--------------------------------------
jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) (10/05/89)
In article <793@scifi.UUCP> njs@scifi.UUCP (Nicholas J. Simicich) writes: >John's even posted to the internal conference a few times. He just >prefers to ask here, I suppose. Two reasons for this - 1). I get news at home so I can ask at home and get the answer in the morning. I don't get the VNET stuff at home. 2). awdprime was down so I couldn't get news if I wanted to ;-( -- John F. Haugh II +-Things you didn't want to know:------ VoiceNet: (512) 832-8832 Data: -8835 | The real meaning of MACH is ... InterNet: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org | ... Messages Are Crufty Hacks. UUCPNet: {texbell|bigtex}!rpp386!jfh +--------------------------------------