[fa.info-vax] UUCP for VMS - replies from the net

info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA (02/14/85)

From: montanaro@GE-CRD



Below are listed the various uucp products for VMS that I was made aware of
by various info-vax members. Thanks to all who helped.

Kevin Carosso    at Hughes Aircraft has a direct port of uucp for VMS. This
version  is free, all that is required  is a blank tape  and a copy of your
UNIX license. (Kevin did not say if any particular type of UNIX license was
required.  I   know  next to  zip  about UNIX licensing, so  contact  Kevin
directly.) Kevin is on ARPAnet (engvax!kvc@cit-vax).

UVCP     (UNIX to  VMS copy?) was  apparently  written  by Microtel Pacific
Research. I was given two different sources for it:

	Microtel Pacific Research
	Michael Ghesquiere
	UUCP: mprvaxa!mikeg
	(604)294-1471
	8999 Nelson Way
	Burnaby, BC, Canada V5A 4B5

The second vendor is:

	OASYS
	Joel Schacht
	(617)491-4180
	60 Aberdeen Avenue
	Cambridge, MA 02138

Price of UVCP  is  unknown. Contact the  vendor(s) directly. A comment from
William P. Malloy (twice removed) regarding this product follows. Note that
UVCP  appears to be a direct port also, thus requiring a UNIX license to be
run on your VMS system.

>>We have this thing installed on one of our MIS depts. VMS beasts to talk to
>>us.  It took a LLOOOONNNGGG time to get it installed.  Apparently some 
>>screwy security problems with VMS, combined with incomptenance from our VMS
>>system folks.  We currently have uucp working, and they have a mail facility
>>called umail.  NOTE: it won't talk to normal VMS mail.  UUX is apparently
>>hopeless.   It gives us error messages on the VMS side, but it does work.
>>People around here often transfer 8M+ files from VMS to UNIX (all the time).
>>
>>If you believe him, and are willing to wait for it.  Lauren Weinstein says
>>he's writing his own version of UUCP for VMS which will be much better
>>integrated into VMS (including handling mail and DECNET properly).  In addition
>>it will sell through DEC.  Now the bad news (a) it's not being sold, but will
>>be available REAL SOON NOW (where have I heard that before).  (b) it will only
>>work on VMS 4.0, and (c) Lauren although very bright, (he's the person mainly
>>responsible for UUCP in the first place) has had a tendency to not finish
>>promised products.  If (when) he does finish it.  We intend to push real hard
>>for our VMS folks to get it.
>>
>>NOTE: buying UVCP means you have to get some silly binary license from AT&T
>>because UVCP is based on UNIX code.  Lauren's code will be all his.
>>
>>Hope this helps.  Too bad your friend can't get them to run a REAL OS.
>>--
>>Address: William P. Malloy, ITT Telecom, B & CC Engineering Group, Raleigh NC
>>	 {ihnp4!mcnc, burl, ncsu, decvax!ittvax}!ittral!malloy
>>
>>

Another twice removed comment on UVCP:

>> It has not fully worked for us, yet.  The vendor is "working on it",
>> eventhough the license that we signed said there is no support.  If
>> the complete package in fact does work in the near future, I will
>> post a summary to net.eunice, net.unix-wizards, etc., since I asked
>> just the question you did about 6 months ago and there was lots of
>> interest.  (You will get 10x more responses asking to let them know
>> about what you hear than you will get actual answers to your question!)
>> 
>> 	Dave Jenner
>> 	Dept. of Astronomy  FM-20
>> 	University of Washington
>> 	Seattle, WA 98195
>> 	(206) 543-6182
>> 	...uw-beaver!entropy!davej
>> 	...uw-beaver!uw-june!phastvax!jenner (WHEN IT WORKS ON VMS!!!)

Has anyone heard  of  progress being  made by Lauren  Weinstein  on his own
version of uucp for VMS?



-- Skip Montanaro
ARPA: montanaro@ge-crd