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stanh@meyerhof.bcm.tmc.edu (Stan Hanks) (03/13/90)

In article <1762@awdprime.UUCP>, marc@stingray..austin.ibm.com (Marc J. Stephenson/140000;1C-22) writes:
> AIX Version 3 is still in development.  It is unclear how back-level an
> operating system and X was in use, but it was definitely a development level

Hmmmm. Having worked for vendors before, and having been active in the
workstation marketplace since Sun was in 2-digit serial numbers, and having
been a software consumer for a hell of a lot longer than that, I feel that I can
safely say that the stuff proporting to be an operating system on the 6000 is
nothing I would be comfortable calling "beta", much less "pre-release" which
implies damn near done. Hell, I wouldn't have shipped that stuff as "early
alpha".

> I would suggest that that be kept in mind.  Many of the systems which are
> out at vendors are 8943Q systems, meaning they came from the 43rd accounting
> week of 1989 (October).  Nonetheless, final judgments about the software
> implementation (rather than the specs, interfaces, designs, etc.) should be
> taken with a grain of salt at this point.  IMHO.

Indeed I did; I also considered the meaning of "pre-release" in standard
software-speak. But while I feel that the hardware is a good design, and a 
good value for the money, but that the software is a real crock. In a way,
it's the worst of all possible worlds: the RT was so S L O  W that you didn't
notice that the software was crap; however, it's pretty hard to miss something
like that on an alleged 27 MIP platform. Maybe if the CMU guys get Mach and 
X11R4 running on it....

> Followups, if any, should be directed to comp.unix.aix, please.

Done.

Stanley P. Hanks                                      e-mail: stanh@bcm.tmc.edu
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hascall@cs.iastate.edu (John Hascall) (03/18/90)

In article <1453@ks.UUCP> drake@ibmarc.uucp (Sam Drake) writes:
}In article <794@dgis.dtic.dla.mil> jkrueger@dgis.dtic.dla.mil (Jon) writes:
  
}>What value has IBM added with its [kernel]?
  
}The AIX 3 kernel is:
  
}o  Pageable (most of the kernel doesn't hog up real memory when not in use)
}o  Pre-emptable (device drivers and kernel routines can be interrupted by
}   higher priority tasks and interrupts, allowing a more responsive system)
}o  Has dynamically definable/deletable/reconfigurable device drivers
}o  Has dynamically definable/deletable kernel extensions (you can add
}   new system calls to the kernel as the system runs without a kernel rebuild)
}o  Improved realtime capabilities (due to the pre-emptable kernel etc)
 
    Hmmm, how novel...and how many years have these things been in VMS?
   
    Oh, sorry I forgot we're not supposed to use the V-word,
    John Hascall
    ISU Comp Ctr
    hascall@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu

buck@siswat.UUCP (A. Lester Buck) (03/19/90)

In article <823@dino.cs.iastate.edu>, hascall@cs.iastate.edu (John Hascall) writes:
>     Hmmm, how novel...and how many years have these things been in VMS?
>    
>     Oh, sorry I forgot we're not supposed to use the V-word,

And how many architectures does VMS run on?

Oh, sorry.  I forgot we're not supposed to notice that putting features in
a portable operating system is much harder than to hack things in to a
particular machine.

-- 
A. Lester Buck     buck@siswat.lonestar.org  ...!texbell!moray!siswat!buck