jip@helix.nih.gov (john powell) (01/15/91)
Background...
I am very familiar with System Administration on SUNs, SGI's, & Stellars.
I am assisting some basically novice system administrators in setting up and
using a RS6000 AIX 3.1 (patch 3001 I believe). IBM did the initial
software installation and afterwards on boot the console was running X as root.
After removing the tail lines from /.profile we were able to turn off X on
re-booting. Again I am a novice to AIX. Now the questions:
1. After a user logs in from the console and starts X, how does he
stop X and logout? We tried killing X but this leaves the console hung.
2. (This may be the answer to the first) Some of the Docs. we have found talks
about starting X from virtual terminal and hot-keying to other virtual
terminals. Were should we look for documentation on doing this? Any
info would be appreciated.
An additional comment to the on going discussion on smit. IMHO IBM has reduced
all of us to novices by introducing objres and stanza files. Its made worse
by the poor documentation (or lack of in some cases) and the number of errors
encountered when running smit. It reminds me alot of SUNs system administration
tools provided with the 386i's ... proved to be a real disaster at many sites.
John Powell
jip@helix.nih.govjwh@bodwin.ifs.umich.edu (Jim Howe) (01/15/91)
In article <829@nih-csl.nih.gov> jip@helix.nih.gov (john powell) writes: > >1. After a user logs in from the console and starts X, how does he > stop X and logout? We tried killing X but this leaves the console hung. > >2. (This may be the answer to the first) Some of the Docs. we have found talks > about starting X from virtual terminal and hot-keying to other virtual > terminals. Were should we look for documentation on doing this? Any > info would be appreciated. Your second question does answer the first. Typically what I do is login on the console and then execute "open xinit". The open command is used to start another terminal session. You can hot key using the alt + ctrl/act keys. I think this is described in the documentation on the Open command. The open command can take a program as an option. The "open xinit" command starts the new session and executes the xinit command. When you quit MWM the X server will also be terminated and you will be returned to your console session. You can also flip between the X session and other virtual terminal sessions using the hot key combination described above. = James W. Howe internet: jwh@ifs.umich.edu University of Michigan uucp: uunet!mailrus!ifs.umich.edu!jwh Ann Arbor, MI 48103-4943
ransom@perelandra.austin.ibm.com (01/15/91)
I start X on my console when I login. To do this you need to use swcons to change the console. In my .xinitrc file, I check to see if I am on the console (in my case xinit passes as the first parameter to .xinitrc whether or not I am on the console). If X is being started on the console, then the .xinitrc creates an aixterm that runs this small shell script: swcons 'tty' exec $SHELL exit 0 This swaps the console to the aixterm and runs your shell. Now, I also changed my .mwmrc to use kill 0 to kill X and in the .profile, you need to run swcons before starting X. This will clean up the console when you log back in. Also the .profile should be changed to only run X if the user is on the graphics head. Jeff Peek AIX Operating System Architecture -- IBM Advanced Workstation Division ransom@bissell.austin.ibm.com Austin, TX
frank@gremlin.austin.ibm.com (Frank Feuerbacher) (01/15/91)
>> > 1. After a user logs in from the console and starts X, how does he > stop X and logout? We tried killing X but this leaves the console hung. Use ctrl-alt-backspace. > > 2. (This may be the answer to the first) Some of the Docs. we have found talks > about starting X from virtual terminal and hot-keying to other virtual > terminals. Were should we look for documentation on doing this? Any > info would be appreciated. AIX supports multiple virtual windows (see the 'open' command, try 'open ksh'). To cycle between them, use alt-action (forward direction) or shift-action (reverse direction). > > An additional comment to the on going discussion on smit. IMHO IBM has reduced > all of us to novices by introducing objres and stanza files. Its made worse > by the poor documentation (or lack of in some cases) and the number of errors > encountered when running smit. You can choose not to use SMIT. SMIT is a useful tool, even if used just to learn what commands to use to do things (look at smit.log & smit.script, also F6 key). Unfortunately, the applications that use (or should use) SMIT are not completely 'polished' in that area. In my opinion, the problem is not having SMIT, it is not having 'enough' SMIT, along with sometimes inadequate documentation. - Frank Feuerbacher Disclaimer: I don't speak for my employer and they don't speak for me.
karish@mindcraft.com (Chuck Karish) (01/16/91)
In article <829@nih-csl.nih.gov> jip@helix.nih.gov (john powell) writes: >I am assisting some basically novice system administrators in setting up and >using a RS6000 AIX 3.1 (patch 3001 I believe). IBM did the initial >software installation and afterwards on boot the console was running X as root. > >1. After a user logs in from the console and starts X, how does he > stop X and logout? We tried killing X but this leaves the console hung. <CTRL><ALT><BKSP> kills the X server, with console error messages. If you put a line like "Quit mwm" f.quit_mwm into the RootMenu stanza in your users' .mwmrc files, they'll be able to exit X from the mwm menu. If the user closes all child windows before exiting, no console messages will result. >2. (This may be the answer to the first) Some of the Docs. we have found talks > about starting X from virtual terminal and hot-keying to other virtual > terminals. Were should we look for documentation on doing this? Try 'man open'. This opens a native-mode virtual terminal. The user rotates through the active virtual terminals with the right-side <ALT><ACT> keys. I always use 'open xinit' instead of 'xinit' so I have a console window open and can escape from X. This makes it easy for a second user to open up another X server without disturbing my screen while I'm at lunch. 'xopen' opens a virtual terminal from X; toggling back to X iconifies the virtual terminal. -- Chuck Karish karish@mindcraft.com Mindcraft, Inc. (415) 323-9000